On Sunday 03 May 2009 10:49 pm, Chris Penn wrote: > Ha, didnt see that part. Slackware is not hard, possibly more work, > but not hard.
The first time I installed Slackware was in '95. I forget which slackware version (all the floppies were copied to one CD by a company called Morse Electronics, of Long Beach, NY; I found them at a Winter Comdex in Atlanta), but the kernel was 0.99. I like the Slackware philosophy as well. > I would not do the job because of the Second comment. I don't work > for people with that attitude. I have NO problem being friends with > some who has that attitude, but I am not going to work for them > unless they pay me ALOT of money to put up with that attitude. This > doesnt sound like a lot of money to me. I could certainly do the job, but I also fear that Michael won't want to pay my hourly rate. > I manage 60+ servers and 20 or so desktops, Linux and Unix( LOL and > one Mac mini), I don't manage as many desktops as you do, but we've been using linux desktops (for me and all our staff) since 2003. I do manage even more servers, mostly for webhosting. > and I don't agree with: > > "As for refusing to install consumer distros like Ubuntu and > insisting on Slackware, that is a simple matter of administrative > policy. We are not talking about a home PC for a housewife, ours is > a serious organisation with a chain of command and a clear division > of responsibilities, and the matters of OS selection and overall > network planning and management are taken seriously (that's my area > of responsibility)." I do believe the customer is always right. And having tried several installs of Ubuntu recently, I really don't like it. And I do understand why Michael (and I) don't like installing distributions (in my case, especially in datacenters) that don't give me a complete list of what they're installing. For example, when we install Red Hat Enterprise Linux and/or CentOS, we uncheck absolutely everything, and have our own scripts to manage installation of what we want. We still end up with some stuff we don't want. > I am not sure what "administrator policies" you are referring to, I > don't think there is much you can do with slackware > "administratively" that others cant do with debian, ubuntu, > RHEL/Centos, Gentoo......its all the same kernal, regardless of your > chain of command. > " Yes, I am perfectly capable of spending the next few years of my > life learning everything there is to know about F/OSS web/audio/video > software for the functions I'm interested in, but I have far, far > more valuable things to do with my life." > > If you actually understood this part of F(L)OSS, you would understand > why ubuntu was even suggested. If ubuntu is not to your taste or you > have alot of applications that are written with a Debian/Centos/RHEL > filesystem in mind, and you dont feel like configuring them for > Ubuntu, then Sure, forget Ubuntu. Nothing mentioned above falls > falls into this category. I have had this issue and I usually go > with Centos. I believe from reading Michael's original post and reply that what he's looking for is someone he can trust to follow his philosophy so he doesn't have to get involved in the moment-by-moment decisions. I could be wrong. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, Nobaloney Internet Services P.O. Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only voice: +1 951 643-5345, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html";
