Although I understand the mail list archives messages and someone could see this one day I'll still respond.
I agree with Dino. -g On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <[email protected]> wrote: > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! > > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. > > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Happy New Year Everyone! >> >> January 1, 2010 >> >> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I feel that >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone that >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our group. >> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have had >> about the design of the group. >> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we have >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak their >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as control >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are not >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing act to >> encourage everyone to speak their mind – but still ask everyone to be >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the future. >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been >> successful in this.) >> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, (where >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and people >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains the >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) I >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I think >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization. >> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, I >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the >> responsibility of the group. >> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a “moderator group” (or >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. While >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had to >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties should >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group should >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. >> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to maintain >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you have >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not having >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda for the >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this soon. >> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to establish >> the following: >> - an official charter which details the group structure >> - a group of moderators >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely to >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of some >> sort) >> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have >> proposed for a Charter. >> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter >> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option for >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up to >> the mailing list or other activities. >> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example set >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect the >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas because >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share the >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking this >> conversation in an open forum like this. >> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions. I >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I need >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly so I >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically seeking >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy on >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting >> process might work. >> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks in >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document idea >> I've posted. >> >> Looking forward to 2010! >> >> Regards, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > [email protected] > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list [email protected] http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
