-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2011 11:54 AM, Michael Sokolov wrote: > Charles N Wyble <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hmmmm. Interesting. I see your point. If one gets FIOS/Cable can't they >> get symmetric service? I seem to recall Comcast offering that. I know >> Time Warner Cable does (5x5mbps for ~70.00 a month). > > It doesn't matter. I won't give up my SDSL. The only way anyone will > take my SDSL from me is from my cold dead hands.
Yeah. I know that. I wasn't trying to convince you. I was simply highlighting other options for folks in this thread, who might be interested in symmetric options. > >> So SDSL isn't the only option anymore. > > FOR ME it is. Yep. That's loud and clear. :) > > Just for the record, I absolutely would not mind being the world's only > SDSL user. But I'm not. According to the E-mail exchange I've had just > a few days ago with the Director of Network Operations at one of the > SDSL-serving ISPs, they have a whopping 50 users using SDSL with V.35 > hand-off. And that's just for the highly elitist V.35 option, so I can > only imagine that the total number of people using SDSL in general (most > of whom unfortunately use CPE devices that aren't much different from > the ADSL ones, Ethernet and all) must be at least two orders of magnitude > greater. Yeah I know that you aren't the only SDSL user. It would appear to even be offered by ATT. See http://www.business.att.com/enterprise/Service/access-enterprise/internet-access-enterprise/dsl-service-enterprise/ It used to be an option during provisioning on the web interface. I don't see it now. However numerous references to SDSL exist. > > So if there are ~5000 SDSL users total in the USA-occupied territories, > that is a LOT - it means I am quite far from being the last and only one. Sure. I've considered getting an SDSL line as a backup. I wonder how much diversity in terms of cable path/dslam/atm etc SDSL has vs ADSL into the same CO. Things to research. > >> Granted it does require a media converter from >> copper/coax/fiber to ethernet. > > I will never, ever, ever use such a "media converter". Instead I use a > Real Router (Cisco 2503 currently, my own MPC866-based open source hw > platform in the future) in which the WAN connection is attached to the > IP stack as a true bona fide non-Ethernet interface, using a V.35 or > EIA-530 cable and a CSU/DSU. Yeah I know. You've mentioned that on numerous occasions. :) > >> What are those standards? <snip> > The Wikipedia page summarizes it as well. Thanks. I'll look it up. > >> Is it equivalent to the "made in America" symbol (ie national >> pride) or is it some sort of documented standard (like say UL listed?) > > More like the latter. We did have "sdelano v CCCP" (Made in the USSR) > marks too, but the USSR quality symbol is separate. Awesome. Thanks for clarifying. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNI4SVAAoJEMvvG/TyLEAtMvoQAJKDrWOqSEW8ZSd2/bwsIquq H8ss1T1aOhUkl0qSLe9IFyhLzatikirvC4OV0pQGpx2jTpYE+5CfP4Gb5HU0RrI7 i+AigUE0o8fl2xlsqD/zDg3DgX3wH5OYhvAHcXr4rHlsVS6Qdxjr9aohWxk5+J+n 5oIVD288cluhU4KAgJy47VIQRXFyDmWaWrgeplzns0uA8DKp8v0d+wdzwlMP5VUS MmRwFHx56VB46vzxUFJrfOgagAURgNbAjlBFd6GwEhZehWKD5FUHnsAEMMXnUpUa PwXOGqQXtygAtg/Dz0NKBrQPcOlvDmZK3h8r3Aghv1Ith3IhMrHVWtFdjf+Ucuoz CDcdFTEjb0I2Ws3VLCmryZKVP/lFGcLBTtVeCWCW1yXchUJrJTuDl/WBg0Et8C3+ OmDQAgww/oi1wy369f6LXdbQwGOgVocSjijoT0NNSRhajOM/Srvkj3r4GWZxNQXG JUmt/mhadBq0RFGjlqoDOfU0cAxFZlLKsUFNYduyCO/SOTxwZrnpc0PbPFUiXw77 Fut5ii3WJTjs/UliAe/4OEPFigejgrc/c1VDkGWdjzu30fTIA2sv29Q9pr0x1S0Y e9mtyyDQn6OTKHGYho2Qjzm56z3sk1+51Kv62y0D5AF+9KpdX6B2ZE5eOOab+iCm plVfSSjSok4EsForGvm8 =EJNb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list [email protected] http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
