One thing great about OSX and Windows are there API's. YES there is a lack
of choice(kind of, QT, GTK run on both). But its a very stable platform to
build upon. Yes OSX did make a huge API change with Carbon and Coco, but it
was a move to a much better API.
Windows, well is trying to get out of the Win32 hell that it put its self
into with .NET.

The only thing 'stable' in Linux is gcc, glibc, GTK, QT, dbus, openssl. Hell
the init system is in total flux again, and the Kernel ABI/API's can change
every few months.

I have OSX apps that are 4+ years old that work just fine on 10.6. Unless a
Linux desktop app has its own static libs, what are the chances its going to
work in 4+ years the very first time you try to run it?
I feel sorry for the RHEL maintainers. And for the people(my self included)
that have to use such a system. Going from one version to the next will
break binary apps, because so much has changed in the years between the 2
versions.

OSX http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/
Windows http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff818516.aspx
Linux http://dev.linuxfoundation.org/navigator/browse/module.php

You look at the Linux page, and it pretty much answers why the Linux Desktop
will never make it.

-- Trevor Benedict
- MrEcho


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Dino K <[email protected]> wrote:

> You missed the point, X is the problem here, as a display platform it's got
> a lot of shortcomings... FLASH is only an example of what runs on top of
> that...  like Aqua as part of OSX is great for a consumer desktop, it
> enables good media playback and refined fonts.
>
> The adherence to X, regardless of the display manager (gnome, KDE, etc)
> will be the death of Linux on the desktop, you can argue all you want Dark
> Prince... the fact is, Linux is a failure on the desktop so far and not
> because the people writing the apps for it but the underlying platform... I
> support Unity and Canonical's move away from X, I cannot re-iterate this
> enough... but I also think they should've done it 5 years ago at least...
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Chris Penn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "...FLASH support sucks, well not only FLASH but all media
>> presentation sucks on Linux, it was not built with media presentation
>> in mind, but built for security over network presentation, this
>> concept is an archaic concept and needs to go."
>>
>> Again, Flash support is an adobe issue.  I am not sure why people
>> insist that Flash issues are due to the FOSS community.  I do not have
>> a problem with flash except on 64bit Linux (which is resolvable most
>> of the time).  Youtube works fine.  What do you mean by 'all media
>> presentation'? Codecs, movie/music playback? PPT files?
>>
>> Chris...
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dino K <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I think this pretty much sums up the state of linux mentality... the
>> > leftists and the rightists...
>> >
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/9424/why-is-ubuntu-11-04-switching-to-unity
>> > IMO X is a large part of the reason why Linux is still a failure on the
>> > desktop, it's clunky, complex, and unwieldy and is a large part of the
>> > reason FLASH support sucks, well not only FLASH but all media
>> presentation
>> > sucks on Linux, it was not built with media presentation in mind, but
>> built
>> > for security over network presentation, this concept is an archaic
>> concept
>> > and needs to go.
>> > The search for the next display platform/driver is ongoing but IMO will
>> be
>> > very very late to the game...
>> > -DK
>> >
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