How long is that going to last? Mandriva is up for sale! If they don't
find buyers then it could be closure. They have always been a
distribution in search of a business plan. I hope they don't close,
BTW. Mandrake was my first distribution and I was a member of the
Mandrake Club (paid service) for a couple of years before I discovered
Debian and was delivered from RPM hell (which really existed back
then). :)

Roy

On 29 May 2010 10:14, Jeremiah Bess <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a solution to all this bickering: Run Mandriva.
>
> Jeremiah E. Bess
> Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four
>
>
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 06:43, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't think that I was disrespectful.  I was describing the
>> behaviour and not an individual. I call them as I see them. It is
>> ridiculous IMO to base one's own behaviour on the experiences of one
>> person's past experience. You can find one squeaky wheel for just
>> about anything. If you listen to them then you may be missing out on
>> much as a result. However, I do apologise if you interpreted it as a
>> personal attack. That was not my intent.
>>
>> Not everything Ubuntu is rosy. I also call that as I see it. Karmic
>> was a bad release as was Jaunty, IMO. Many people were frustrated with
>> continuing sound and wireless problems, but these releases also added
>> the frustration of graphics card problems. I was apprehensive about
>> Lucid so I tested it with more rigour than previous releases and found
>> it hard to find fault. I don't care about button placement or the
>> music store. I do care about performance and things working properly.
>> Most sound issues and many wireless issues are behind us. I thank
>> kernel developers for much of that. Canonical should be congratulated
>> for implementing Plymouth and doing away with HAL with little in the
>> way of problems. Plymouth introduced many potential problems as any
>> Nvidia and Fedora user can attest to. The fact that HAL's removal went
>> under the radar of most people confirms that this was successful.
>> Plymouth gave some problems for me early on with no compositing but
>> this was achieved with beta 2.
>>
>> There are several good reasons to install 10.04. Performance is much
>> better. The new kernel gives better hardware detection and more
>> drivers. Sound problems are far fewer. There are enhancements such as
>> the music store, MeMenu and many newer applications plus you get three
>> year support due to it being LTS. What is there not to like? Button
>> placement is easily fixed BTW.
>>
>> I look forward to 10.10 even more in the hopes that Mono will be gone
>> from the default installation. So far F-Spot is to be replaced with
>> Shotwell which leaves only Tomboy and Gbrainy as the only two Mono
>> apps left and Tomboy can be replaced by Gnote. That should save lots
>> of CD space for other goodies!
>>
>> Each person needs to try out 10.04 for him or herself and make up
>> their own mind. I don't like scare tactics used by some to spread FUD
>> and people giving into it which is why I responded strongly.
>>
>> Roy
>>
>> On 28 May 2010 22:29, Kari Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Yeah, pretty much.  I run two businesses and homeschool  two kids and
>> > chase
>> > a toddler around while supporting my husband's farming business.
>> >  Schedule's
>> > pretty full & I don't sleep much.   I belong to groups like this to save
>> > me
>> > time because it's my most precious commodity.  I'm pretty smart and can
>> > figure out almost anything, but time limitations make troubleshooting an
>> > as-needed activity.  Screwing around w/ Linux for curiosity's sake?
>> >  That
>> > was so ten years ago for me.
>> > Note that I used the word *hassle* -- I believe Karmic can be installed,
>> > but
>> > jumping needless hurdles? Nah.  Not right now.
>> > I'm sure you feel differently, and I'm sure you're more respectful of
>> > others
>> > than you came across to be in this post.
>> > ~kari
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Roy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Do you roll over for everything this easily? So one person reports and
>> >> bad experience and you will not upgrade? That is ludicrous. I have
>> >> used Lucid since Alpha 1 and replaced Karmic with Lucid on both my
>> >> systems when Beta 2 came out. It is one of the best releases from
>> >> Ubuntu yet.
>> >>
>> >> Roy
>> >>
>> >> On 28 May 2010 09:08, Kari Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > I'm glad to know this.  Thanks for saving me the hassle of the
>> >> > upgrade.
>> >> > ~kari
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Vyshakh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm back to KARMIC.
>> >> >> LUCID disappointed me a lot.
>> >> >> Please check the attached screen shots. Do anyone face problem like
>> >> >> these in Nautilus????
>> >> >> These patterns and colors are irritating....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> One more thing...
>> >> >> Even though I've installed lucid several times, I could not see the
>> >> >> new boot screen completely. it was never shown fully. Sometimes the
>> >> >> grub boot loader failed to install also.
>> >> >>
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