@ Roy,
Ubuntu installs with a lot of services turned on - and that slows
things down - especially for those of us like me who have limited
resources (P 1.3 GHz with 768 MB RAM). I've never been ambitious
enough to go through the init scripts and shut unnecessary services
down, because I knew it would be a PITA big job. Arch runs a lot
faster out-of-the-box on my hardware because it doesn't have that
thing I call bloat. I doubt my lappy will ever be able to run Gnome 3
or any environment more resource-hungry (like KDE) without making me
want to drop-kick it through the goal-posts. That's my story and I'm
sticking to it.
Scott
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Roy <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
@Scott
So the test data is meaningless? I would like to know what "bloat"
means. It is a subjective word. I agree about the teaching bit and
Arch is great. It just is not for everyone. Ubuntu aims to be and
that is the difference. The test data shows that there is little
difference. One would expect bigger difference given the two
distributions' roots and how they are built. That appears not to
be the case.
My theory is that no matter what distro you use, bloat comes with
habits of the user.
I use Kubuntu with KDE 4.8, BTW. With six desktops times half a
dozen activities with lots of things running and have no problem.
I have used Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, Mint and many others and
it is the same. No appreciable difference. I have used GNOME Shell
on Fedora, KDE on openSUSE, Unity on Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 and
Mint with MGSE. All work fine. I just installed Cinnamon and had
two applications open and it froze. What conclusion should I draw?
It is hard to generalize, but I would not say that Arch is
necessarily faster (I have used it). I would also say that it is a
pain to set up and configure. Is it worth it? That is opinion.
Everyone has one and none is right or wrong. :)
Roy
Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada
On 27 January 2012 17:34, Scott Vargovich <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
@ Roy - From all the headaches I've had with Ubuntu's bloat
and hogging of resources, Arch is a breath of fresh air. To
me it's every bit worth the effort... and it's teaching me
more about my laptop than I ever knew before.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Roy <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Funny. Phoronix tested Arch against Ubuntu and found
little difference in performance. That was when Maverick
came out, but it makes you wonder if Arch is worth all of
the fuss.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1
<http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1>
Roy
Using Kubuntu 11.10, 64-bit
Location: Canada
On 27 January 2012 15:15, Scott Vargovich
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Arch is growing on me in leaps and bounds. Ubuntu was
way too bloated... but it was the only OS that would
run on my lappy with no serious issues. I will post a
fix on the wiki if I get an answer.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jeremiah Bess
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Arch is awesome. I have it on my desktop and
laptop now. I am very pleased with it. I can't
help with the Opera problem though, I don't use
it, just Chrome. If you do get a fix, might be a
good idea to put it on the Arch wiki.
Jeremiah E. Bess
Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four.nine
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:15, Scott Vargovich
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I finally conquered my laptop issues with
Arch!!! Don't ask me how I did it - all I can
say is http://wiki.archlinux.org saved my
bacon on more than a few occasions. I'm
having an issue with flash only on Opera,
which is the browser I really want to use.
Flash works properly on Chromium. Here are
the versions of flash and Opera I have installed:
extra/flashplugin 11.1.102.55-1
community/opera 11.60-1
Any thoughts, ideas, questions, or comments???
Thanks,
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