On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 10:23 +0100, wiz4rd wrote:
> On 13.03.2014 09:42, Bastien Nocera wrote
> > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 09:16 +0100, wiz4rd wrote:
> >>> As for why you can't set the buttons to produce left/middle/right
> >>> mouse clicks through the control panel? Unfortunately, the GNOME
> >>> developers don't feel that mouse buttons are worthwhile shortcuts and
> >>> have resisted attempts to add them in. Worse, because GNOME's
> >>> button-mapping magic works by intercepting mouse events sent from our
> >>> driver, you can't use xsetwacom to force a specific button to make a
> >>> click: the event will just be consumed by GNOME before anything can
> >>> see it :(
> >> Wow, that's one great decision made by them developers... ;)
> > The said developers don't have access to any Bamboo tablets, and it's
> > not our fault that drivers (which are supposed to hide away differences
> > between models) are the thinnest of wrappers on top of the hardware.
> No offense, but IMO it seems to be less a problem of some driver but of 
> different ways to configure attached devices.
> xsetwacom seems to work just fine!

Yeah, right.

> Now, instead of "simply" putting a GUI on top of that, Gnome's wacom 
> control panel seems more to try to gain priority over xsetwacom by 
> intercepting and blocking at least parts of its basic funtionality...

Yes, because we wanted to make something that works. I don't think you
have any idea of the amount of work that went into the GNOME
configuration tools, or quite how much work was needed to get basic
functionality working evenly across the number of tablets (take a look
at the tablet definitions in libwacom, and have fun coming up with
schemes that would allow us to support absolutely all of them).

It's easy pointing the finger at GNOME ("look, they didn't base their
tools on something that allows you to render your tablet useless with
the wrong configuration options"), but you should surely be better
informed if you're going to make those claims.

Having wrote most of what is now the GNOME Wacom config tools, and
libwacom (and also a Wacom kernel driver), I'm positive in saying that
the drivers aren't helping us. You're certainly allowed to be frustrated
about your experience using those tools, but you can also be wrong in
assigning the blame.

Cheers 


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