There's really no reason to get angry about this either way. One man's
refuse is another's treasure, especially when it comes to computer
equipment. None of my friends understands how I can be enthusiastic about
old computer technology, such as the Lisa OS and hardware. But, they can
talk endlessly about the most boring (to me) linguistic topics, like
cases, and one of them finds the Cincinnati local news channel fascinating
enough to watch twice daily.

The IBM AT doesn't interest me a great deal because of its primitive OS
and bland hardware. But, it is interesting from a historical perspective,
because it was so successful in the market. The inclusion of a working
hard disk seems to add value to the unit. Lisa owners know about how vital
a working vintage hard disk is!

Does anyone have experience with 80186 machines? That was the black sheep
of the family, like Motorolla's 68010. ;)

As for the Lisa's failure in the market, that's undeniable. But, market
success doesn't say a lot about the quality of products, sometimes, or
perhaps often. Although psychological research has found that people find
averaged faces more attractive (the more average the face, the more
attractive we find it), average technology is usually nothing to get
excited about. Unless, perhaps, you're Dell. ;)

> right. And where do you get all those PCs and ATs.
> You're really very ignorant of the value of those
> things. And from the sound of it, ignorant in general.
> And keep in mind, if it weren't for all that "crap",
> your expensive Apples wouldn't be priced even as low
> as they are.
>  The problem probably is you never figured out how to
> use some of that "pc crap" and you're bitter lol.
>
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>> I didn't realize this was a clearing house for old
>> PC junk.  And I thought
>> there were newsgroups for Apple bashing. As for all
>> that PC junk...at least
>> once a month I throw IBM PCs and ATs into the
>> dumpster at the
>> landfill/recycle center. I can't give that crap away
>>
>>
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