Hi Martin

Please see PPE for my comments inline

On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 11:50 AM Martin Duke via Datatracker <
nore...@ietf.org> wrote:

> Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for
> charter-ietf-lisp-04-06: Block
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> BLOCK:
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> Is the NAT traversal work going to prioritize existing solutions (e.g.
> STUN,
> TURN, ICE), or have all those already been determined to be inadequate? If
> the
> latter, LISP should coordinate with TSVWG on its NAT traversal solution.
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> PPE - The symmetric or endpoint-address-and-port-dependent mapping NATs
> (ICE, TURN..) have been  have been determined to be inadequate due to the
> nature of LISP that is typically unidirectional traffic and its usage of
> UDP port 4341 without specification of source port.
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Yes - on coordination with TSVWG.
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> COMMENT:
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> Is the reliable transport protocol required to be secure? (e.g., are you
> looking at TCP/TLS, QUIC, and SCTP/DTLS, or just bare TCP/SCTP)
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> PPE - The current reliable transport draft has a proposal for the use of
> bare TCP and fallback to UDP using the existing mechanisms for security in
> LISP. The document is being evaluated and reviewed.
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Thanks
Padma
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