Would these changes address your feedback?

Clarified the text as we are not building a new NAT solution but rather
adding LISP extensions needed to make it work.

Original:
NAT-Traversal: Support for a NAT-traversal solution in deployments where
LISP tunnel endpoints are separated from by a NAT (e.g., LISP mobile node).

Proposed:
NAT-Traversal: *LISP protocol extensions to* support a NAT-traversal
solution in deployments where LISP tunnel endpoints are separated from by a
NAT (e.g., LISP mobile node)

and

Original:
Map Server Reliable Transport: LISP control plane messages are transported
over UDP, however, in some cases, the use of a reliable transport protocol
is a better fit, since it actually helps reduce periodic signaling.

Proposed:
Map Server Reliable Transport: LISP control plane messages are transported
over UDP, however, in some cases, the use of a reliable transport
protocol *(such
as TCP)*  is a better fit, since it actually helps reduce periodic
signaling.
Thanks
Padma

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 9:00 AM Martin Duke <martin.h.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> SG, please mention these points in the text.
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:38 AM Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.i...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin
>>
>> Please see PPE for my comments inline
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 11:50 AM Martin Duke via Datatracker <
>> nore...@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for
>>> charter-ietf-lisp-04-06: Block
>>>
>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all
>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this
>>> introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-lisp/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> BLOCK:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Is the NAT traversal work going to prioritize existing solutions (e.g.
>>> STUN,
>>> TURN, ICE), or have all those already been determined to be inadequate?
>>> If the
>>> latter, LISP should coordinate with TSVWG on its NAT traversal solution.
>>>
>>> PPE - The symmetric or endpoint-address-and-port-dependent mapping NATs
>>> (ICE, TURN..) have been  have been determined to be inadequate due to
>>> the nature of LISP that is typically unidirectional traffic and its usage
>>> of UDP port 4341 without specification of source port.
>>>
>> Yes - on coordination with TSVWG.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Is the reliable transport protocol required to be secure? (e.g., are you
>>> looking at TCP/TLS, QUIC, and SCTP/DTLS, or just bare TCP/SCTP)
>>>
>>> PPE - The current reliable transport draft has a proposal for the use of
>>> bare TCP and fallback to UDP using the existing mechanisms for security in
>>> LISP. The document is being evaluated and reviewed.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks
>> Padma
>>
>
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