Thanks Padma, I will update the spec this week.

Dino

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:40 PM, Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.i...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Authors and all.
> 
> Thanks for your patience.
> 
> First of all - I think the document describes a useful feature in LISP. Thank 
> you for writing this doc.
> 
> I reviewed this document after reading the ELP definition in RFC8060 section 
> 4.6.
> My overall comment is that I was expecting the detailed processing of the ELP 
>  as  RFC8060 references this document for "details".  Therefore, I find that 
> the document would be improved if section 5 had  detailed processing for all 
> cases. I have flagged in the document where some processing should  be 
> included in different steps.
>  Here are major suggestions 
> - proposed a compromise to make the document clearer on figure 1 and figure 2 
> and text associated.
> - proposed to beef up section 5 need to add processing of L, S, P bits but 
> more importantly perhaps give the processing with the combinations of bits.
> 
> I am attaching the diffs in PDF format as requested in exchanges. If 
> inconvenient. I can transform the comments in txt.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions
> 
> Thanks
> Padma
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 5:33 PM Padma Pillay-Esnault <padma.i...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> Hello Dino and al
> 
> I will review the doc, comments, exchanges and get back to the list.
> Thanks for your patience 
> 
> Padma
> 
> On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 12:31 PM Dino Farinacci <farina...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is correct.
> 
> Dino
> 
> > On May 30, 2024, at 9:53 AM, Joel Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The question, as I understand it, is not what you want Dino.  Nor is it 
> > what Luigi wants.  It is what the working group wants.  I gather that Padma 
> > has the task of figuring that out.   Good luck Padma.
> > Yours,
> > Joel
> > On 5/30/2024 12:17 PM, Dino Farinacci wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On May 30, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Luigi Iannone <g...@gigix.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Dino,
> >>> 
> >>> Private emails, with insulting content, will not help progress the 
> >>> document.
> >> 
> >> I didn’t insult you. I made a conclusion you didn’t understand something 
> >> since I repeated the explanation several times.  
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Since apparently we are not able to converge, my co-chair Padma accepted 
> >>> to handle this document from now on.
> >> 
> >> Just because commenters have comments doesn’t mean all of them need 
> >> fixing. And we need to agree to disagree. 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Please wait her review of the draft.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> As a participant of the LISP WG, and with no hats on, my concerns remain 
> >>> unaddressed (despite proposing very detailed and easy fixes). 
> >>> 
> >>> Second example in  section 4 remains unclear and misleading. See: 
> >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/CzJjLCgCZquCPOkhv56-q3DZTRE/
> >>> 
> >>> The general organisation of the document can be improved.
> >>> As of now it is a bunch of use cases where for each one we see the same 
> >>> structure:
> >>> 
> >>> Here is a cool thing you can do using LISP ELPs….  
> >>> In order to do it you MUST do this or SHOULD do that….. 
> >>> 
> >>> In other words the specifications that need to be implemented are 
> >>> scattered all over the document. The risk is that people interested in 
> >>> one single use case will implement only part of the specs.
> >> 
> >> I implemented it and so did cisco with no problems. 
> >> 
> >>> My suggestion is to move a few paragraph in one single place so to have 
> >>> the document organized in two main parts: A section with all the 
> >>> specifications; A section with all the use cases.
> >>> My first review included detailed suggestions of the few simple cut & 
> >>> paste to be done: 
> >>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/3zIUevHl8ZbqfKgwjXhJ8Z-FUlA/
> >> 
> >> Yes I know what you commented on. I don’t want to make the changes. I want 
> >> to focus on all the documents that I am responsible for and this document 
> >> is just not as important as the other ones. 
> >> 
> >> We have a real deadline now. I won’t be doing IETF after 2025. So now we 
> >> have to be laser focused and not take > 5 years to move documents forward. 
> >> 
> >> Dino
> >> 
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