Hello Dino,

Long time not talk 😉

About GPS, it did appear in -15 in the abstract ;-) but no more in -16. I will 
clear my DISCUSS once on-line (SN flight do not have Wi-Fi – the IEEE canonical 
way of writing ;-) )

Regards

-éric

From: Dino Farinacci <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, 5 June 2025 at 22:34
To: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <[email protected]>
Cc: The IESG <[email protected]>, [email protected] 
<[email protected]>, [email protected] <[email protected]>, 
[email protected] <[email protected]>, Kiran Makhijani <[email protected]>, Dino 
Farinacci <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-geo-15: (with DISCUSS and 
COMMENT)
Thanks Eric. See comments inline.

This is my last email in the series, so I will wait 1 day to post -16 so I can 
get reactions to my responses.

> ## DISCUSS (blocking)
>
> As noted in https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/, a
> DISCUSS ballot is just a request to have a discussion on the following topics:
>
> ### Abstract and other places
>
> A common error (done by this author as well) is to use "GPS" (a US commercial
> service) rather than GNSS (Global Navigation Satellite System), which is
> generic as it includes GPS from USA, Galileo from Europe, Glonass, Beido. So,
> simply s/Global Positioning Satellite (GPS)/Global Navigation Satellite System
> (GNSS)/ to have technical content and not commercial.

The word "GPS" does not appear in the document. Is there a specific reference 
you want changed?

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ## COMMENTS (non-blocking)
>
> ### Other DISCUSS
>
> I support Med Boucadair's point about DISCUSS on consistency of
> identification/characterisation of a geo-point across various IETF
> specifications (thank you Ketan for the text)

Okay, check out -16 since I tried to fix Med's concerns.

> ### Other COMMENT
>
> Erik Kline has a point in section 5 about the altitude definition, I was about
> to raise it to a DISCUSS.

I changed references from "circle" to "sphere" to address this. I did not hear 
from Erik if that was sufficient.

> Deb Cooley has also a good point about what it the experiment scope, duration,
> and evaluation.

Working group chairs or AD please respond!!!

>
> ### Only static object
>
> Was it considered that object can be moving, i.e., having a speed vector ?

Yes.

> ### Section 4.2
>
> Like other ADs, I completely fail to understand that longest-prefix is akin
> largest-radius,i.e., longest-prefix is the most specific and largest-radius is
> the less specific. As many people do not understand, either the text is wrong
> or some explanations should be there.

Did you feel the explanation in -15 was not sufficient? I explained the logic 
to Erik. Did you see that email?

> s/WiFi/Wi-Fi/

A "WiFi" is an accepted term. Why change it?

>
> Like others, I am unsure whether referencing expired I-Ds is useful.$

How about it may help the other IDs if those documents come out of expiration. 
I would like the OSPF, ISIS, and BGP working  group chairs to raise their 
opinions.

> ### Section 5
>
> I have dealt with several coordinates systems and usually the
> latitude/longitude can be negative to indicate South or East ot <0, 0>. Why is
> this draft deviating from this well-accepted format ? This can only make 
> things
> & algorithms more complex. Please reconsider.

It was a design decision among the 4 groups to use more descriptive coordinates 
than using decimal encoding.

> M-bit, I have serious doubt that GNSS are accurate enough to the centimeter of
> altitude without specific devices (and base stations on the ground).

Right, we know. But we included it anyway so a 1RU device could be located in a 
data center rack.

> ### Section 9
>
> Please add a URI for the IANA registry to avoid any ambiguity.

Can you supply one for us?

Thanks,
Dino
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