In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On 22 Jan 99, at 9:39, Bob Brown wrote:
>> Is the a common practice?
>
>Yes, in this vigilante-justice world, sysops can and do refuse email from 
>various sources for almost any [and often no] reason.

Ah... excuse me... Examples please?

If you have some evidence to support your claim that sysadmins refuse mail
from people for no reason, please present it.

I realize that in the ``whimp-justice'' world, no spammer or spam source
ever gets denied the ability to spam, and spam again, and again, and again,
but out here in the real world, some of us _do_ know where the spam is
coming from, _and_  which ISPs (and freebie mail serrvices) are supporting
it and/or condoning it.

>> .. How do you deal with this?
>
>As a rule you can't.  A sysop doesn't have to accept email from anyone or 
>any site they don't feel like.  You can try to complain [e.g., by 
>emailing to them from a different email address that can get through], 
>but you'll always get the same answer: 
>
>    "we're getting spam from <SOMESITE> so we're refusing *all* mail
>    from that site.  That we may be blocking email from hundreds of
>    thousands of people because of the [alleged] activities of a few
>    isn't our problem" 

Would you care to back _that_ up with some actual evidence?

Somehow I think that this interpretation is more a product of the man
from Fantasy Farm's vivid imagination than it is an actual or clear
reflection of what anyone has ever said about any spam blocking that
might be in place anywhere.

>As as with the best of style of terrorists who're holding hostages...

Oh plueezzzzzz!

We wouldn't by any chance be over-dramatizing just a tad now would we?

Naw.  You wouldn't do that!

>they'll be happy to tell you that your problem isn't with the sysop but 
>with the spammers.  [and if you point out that you've never sent any spam 
>and it isn't the spammers that are blocking your email, you'll get a 
>nasty tirade back..:o)]

Please provide proof or retract.


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