** Sometime around 16:00 -0800 02/08/2000, Ronald F. Guilmette sent us:
>Awhile ago, I posted here some info explaining why egroups/onelist got
>their e-mail blacklisted for this domain.
>
>Just to show that I don't play favorites,
As if we care ...
>I've also now blacklisted
>TOPICA.COM here on the basis of the abusive OPT-OUT spam message
>included below,
Yawn.
>Osama, the owner of the mailing list 'Taha',
>has added you to this list at Topica.
This is endemic of mailing lists and list owners, Ron, and has
nothing to do with Topica, per se. Osama could be running a mailing
list on a LISTSERV or a Majordomo somewhere, and decide to add you to
his/her mailing list -- and you wouldn't necessarily even receive
notification of that fact (until you received mail from the list).
[1] Topica needs to provide a means for list owners to make
*legitimate* additions to their mailing lists -- and, what do you
know, but such a mechanism can be abused by Bad Bad People. Shocker
of the century, Ron.
As I said, *yawn*. It isn't the first time that a legitimate
mechanism has been abused, it won't be the last time, and quite
frankly I'm much more concerned about ORBS routinely spamming my mail
server than I am about some dink at Topica abusing the subscriber-add
feature.
Career suggestion: Don't go into investigative reporting, Ron. You're boring.
[1] Hmmmm, maybe we should ban ALL sites that run list servers,
because they can be abused by Bad People. Or maybe we should simply
write to the SERVER ADMINISTRATORS at those sites to tell them that
their list owner(s) are abusing the services. Huh, yeah, there's an
idea. Hey, waddyaknow, Topica has an abuse address! Maybe we could
simply write to Topica's abuse address to tell them that one of their
list owners is abusing the service. Nah, no sense in doing that --
Topica is a Big Bad Internet Business, so maybe we should go for the
knee-jerk reaction and simply ban the site, instead. Yeah, that's the
ticket.
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