Ferg,

   About 6 months ago, their was this conference in
LA, dealing with the subject of addressing private and
public objectionable material concernings within the
us market places. The major problem was the cost
factor in development such an software package.
Several software development companies have tried this
concerpt, with very badly terrible results, and even
more is the cost factor, for an one time only purchase
usage. 
   Their is an movement about that wants to allow
local communities to set objectionable material
standards with regards to private and public viewing
of any and all type of materials.
   Have you had an chance to view US goverment
websites throught the world with regards to their 
objectionable material and or political messaages.

PS; Most of the Arabia counties don't even allow
american websites to be hosted or viewed, due to
religious and political concerns. 


--- Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My idea though, is a simple application that a host
> could use to scan
> their own networks for objectionable material. Then
> hosts like The
> Planet couldn't say it's too difficult or too
> expensive to police the
> content on all of our customers' sites...
> 
> --Ferg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Clement Cervenka
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: The latest news from The Planet
> 
> Freg,
> 
>     With regards to developing an software program,
> that scans sites on their network for objectable
> materials content, that kind of software progams
> already exsists and is in real time usage for the
> last
> 3 to 4 years, at goverment security and intelligent
> listering post across an world wide scanning net.
> Their was even an hardback book published about 4
> years ago, covering this issues.
>     The software program is called conavaour, its
> designed to scan voice and text messages using
> inputted specific key work phrases acorss the world
> communication channel infrstructor in real time, and
> the 60 minutes segment shows about 2 years ago,
> really
> was an behind the screens into the us listering post
> opeations.
> 
> PS; The general public doesn't know that encry.
> software that is designed,producted,distributed,
> import & exported within the US is listed an 
> classified as WMD (weapons of massive destruction)
> across all fields within the US. That is one of the
> main reason why out goverment want to keep the encty
> bit # low so that they can unencry messages in real
> time for leads, etc.
> 
> Also, if you start scanning content providors, and
> hosting services, then this would also include TV,
> Radio, Computers, Films outlets as well.
> 
> --- Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > As I've found time and again dealing with several
> > companies, it actually
> > seems to be a disqualifying trait!!!
> > 
> > It's a huge issue to think about though. I'm in
> > negotiations to partner
> > with another company in a venture to start a
> hosting
> > company. This sort
> > of thing has got me scratching my head and
> wondering
> > if it's really
> > worth it. I mean, do I really want to spend
> valuable
> > time dealing with
> > this sort of thing...
> > 
> > Someone might want to get with internet haganah
> and
> > develop a tool that
> > would allow hosts to scan the sites on their
> > networks for sites like
> > this. You might be able to market that pretty well
> > and make a good chunk
> > of cash.
> > 
> > --Ferg
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Clement Cervenka
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:34 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: The latest news from The Planet
> > 
> > 
> > Jake,
> > 
> >     No body said that you have to be smart or
> > intelliegence to operate an IPS in america today?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > If that is actually the case here, it's still a
> PR
> > > disaster. If that 
> > > were truly the case, they should have simply
> said
> > > "We are working with 
> > > all appropriate law enforcement agencies"
> > > 
> > > PR nightmare.
> > > 
> > > Clement Cervenka wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Johnny and to all fellow CF members,
> > > >
> > > >Please memeory that some of those sites are
> > > actually
> > > >developed and managed by US goverment
> intelligent
> > > and
> > > >security agencies for the express purpose of
> > > >grathering intellence and related security
> > issues??
> > > >I know that this is not general public
> > acknowledge,
> > > >but it has become an acceptance practice
> nowdays
> > > under
> > > >
> > > >the goverment security IT field.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >joe 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Johnny Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>Equally interesting is the 'terrorist tracker'
> > > >>website (the owner is
> > > >>referenced in the article)
> > > >>
> > > >>http://www.haganah.us/haganah/index.html
> > > >>
> > > >>I encourage you, if you are hosting at any of
> > the
> > > >>listed companies - let
> > > >>them know your concerns...if they react
> > initially
> > > >>like thePlanet did
> > > >>(shrugging their shoulders and saying 'it's a
> > free
> > > >>country'...switch
> > > >>providers like me!!
> > > >>
> > > >>:o)
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > > >>Of Jake
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:03 AM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: OT: The latest news from The Planet
> > > >>
> > > >>Under the heading of "Companies who REALLY
> need
> > a
> > > PR
> > > >>department"...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>    
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
>http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/local_story_317193815.html
> > > >  
> > > >
> > > >>    
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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