The answer to when it's going to be blocked is simple. Whenever the
traffic of Trojan mail servers starts beating up on port 26 for their
smtp spam traffic, that port will be blocked and on we'll go to the next
port. If I was SBC or one of the other ISP companies, I'd make customers
pay extra for port 25 usage and/or I'd make them accountable for the
broadcasts from their machines on that port. The amount of spam that
comes from (insert name of ignorant user here)'s machine on port 25
because they have a mail server installed without their knowledge is
absolutely incredible.

I think it's time that users are held accountable for keeping their
machines clean and not allowing infected machines to pollute the web
with junk. There are too many easy/cheap software packages available
which are capable of keeping virus and spyware at bay. Email has almost
completely ceased to be a truly useful form of communication because of
these problems. I think it would be totally fair if my ISP said, "Hey,
your machine is broadcasting spam. This is just a warning, but you need
to make sure your antivirus and anti-spyware software is up to date. If
the problem continues, your account may be deactivated. Please see our
online store for some software that might help you... whatever..." I,
personally, would not have a problem with my ISP doing something like
that. I think it might help out quite a lot if all the big ISP's started
doing that.

Of course, what do I know, right?
--Ferg



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ron Mast
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: SBC blocking outgoing mail port 25

LOL, yeah...it's not just SBC, freakin' Charter Communication is doing
it too.  One day, my email decided not to work, but webmail worked fine.
Hmmm, lost?  YES.  Spent a long time trying to find what the hell was
going on.  Had to telnet check port 25 and sure enough it was being
blocked.  Solution, changed Outlook to port 26 and walla!  When is port
26 going to be blocked?  I'm sure there's a technical explanation to why
26 may never be blocked, but it's a damn good question.  Pathetic
indeed.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Lavender
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: SBC blocking outgoing mail port 25

Cute

I am sure I have paid that in spades and will end up doing so many times
again.  It is a part of doing business.  Learning to use the tools takes
time to diagnose problems is ever painful.  This issue has been going on
for
a long time with dialup and will continue to ripple until we can get
people
to stop acting as unsecured relays.





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
Of Adrian J. Moreno
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SBC blocking outgoing mail port 25

Finding out your client's ISP has blocked the default outgoing mail
port?

$1000 in non-billable time

Telling sendmail to use an alternate port number for outgoing mail?

$0

Time spent to teach most every customer how to re-configure their e-mail

client to use an alternate outgoing mail port?

Ludicrous

-- Adrian

Jack Lavender wrote:
> Hmmm....learn how to use telnet to spoof a connection and you would
know
it
> was blocked.
> 
> Then if you are using sendmail....it is fairly simple to tell it to
listen
> on another port.
> 
> Jack
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