I wouldn't expect Macromedia to do much that would add additional developer-oriented functionality to Dreamweaver. They joined the Eclipse Foundation to deliver developer tools and more likely to bring forth developer tools that way. I can't imagine the designer-focused folks at Adobe know what to do with all these server-based technologies.
Rick... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schreck, Thomas (PPC) Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CF VS .Net? I've started doing some C# programming and agree that it's a waste of time to do C# without visual studio. The good thing that I've seen about C# and .net is that everything is an object. The intelli-sense in Visual Studio is awesome. I would love to see Macromedia/Adobe add that functionality to DreamWeaver. It would be cool as you code to know what methods and properties are available from your CFC. ColdFusion is hands down easier to develop with IMO. But that could be a factor of what you are used to. 8 or 9 years of CF development versus 2 weeks of C#. Hmmmmm. The knock on CF is that it's not free like ASP or PHP. Not sure of what VisualStudio costs, but that has to be included in the comparison. Tom -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Woodward Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CF VS .Net? I've done two smallish projects in C#, and if you don't use Visual Studio the amount of code you have to write is HEINOUS. If you plan to do any amount of .NET development whatsoever, add Visual Studio licenses to the total cost because writing all that code by hand is a nightmare. To me that's not a strength of the Visual Studio tool, it's a weakness of the language. ;-) I just don't understand why everything other than CF (and some J2EE servers of course) doesn't manage your datasources so you can have simple query statements like we have in CF, and that's just one example. All that extra code adds up quickly. Matt On Jun 9, 2005, at 8:49 AM, John Ivanoff wrote: > A while back ben forta blogged on this "Defending ColdFusion > Against ASP.NET" > http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=e&entry=1264 > > he said it should be more J2EE vs .NET > "ASP.NET apps take advantage of the .NET framework and infrastructure, > just like ColdFusion apps take advantage of J2EE" > > I've looked into .NET and to me it's like programming cobol. 30* lines > of code to do a "HELLO WORLD" But I'm sure you can do some really cool > stuff with it. > > * not really but sure seems like 30. > > On 6/9/05, David Whatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just for discussion, what are the pro's and cons on CF versus .Net? >> >> David Whatley >> COO >> AutoRealty Products >> 817-284-9875 X 105 >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> To post, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe: >> http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm >> To subscribe: >> http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------- > To post, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm > To subscribe: > http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm > > > -- Matthew Woodward [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm ---------------------------------------------------------- To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberUnsubscribe.cfm To subscribe: http://www.dfwcfug.org/form_MemberRegistration.cfm
