Kent, You don't have a clue what you are talking about with regard to NSI and I am starting to suspect you would rather make inaccurate accusations rather than know the facts so I am not going to say any more than to say you are flat out WRONG. Chuck > -----Original Message----- > From: Kent Crispin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 2:13 AM > To: IFWP Discussion List > Subject: [ifwp] Re: NSI Technical Advisory Group: once again ICANN > stacks the deck > > On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 08:50:06PM -0500, Gordon Cook wrote: > > > > Since Dyson and Roberts in the Stealth MODE of Operation chose not to > > introduce the Technical Advisory Group to the net, I will do the honors > for > > them. The Technical Advisory Group will comment on and participate in > the > > testing of Network Solutions' Shared Registration System. (Remember > > Esther's lottery?) looks to me like Esther and Mike have stacked the > deck. > > Should we be surprised? nope. Would be nice if Esther would do us the > > only of explaining how this open, public and transparent process was > > carried out. > > Given that, according to amendment 11 it is NSI's responsibility to > set up the TAG, and ICANN only had the ability to propose names, > yes, it is very interesting how this process was carried out. I > will describe it below. > > [...] > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] in many search engines yielded nothing > > Interesting -- this rather strongly narrows down your source, because > this misspelled mail address was on a message that David Graves > mailed to a rather small group. So it was either someone at NSI that > gave you this, or one of that small group. > > Care to comment on who sent you got a copy of that email? > > [...] > > > and Kent Crispin of the MOUvement. Passionate POC, CORE MoU advocate. > > Most interested in casting doubt on everyone else's moves. Hard to find > a > > more biased guy around.(PAB)? > > I have been involved in the design of shared registry systems and > their protocols for quite some time. I have designed and implemented > a prototype for one, was technical editor of the CORE SRS > requirements document, and edited the ietf draft for the shared > registry system working group. Objectively speaking, I have genuine > expertise in the area. > > But you needn't worry, Gordon -- NSI is quite capable of defending > itself without your lapdog "journalism": > > - The TAG is toothless. The language from amendment 11 is to > "comment on the design of and participate in the testing of" NSI's > system. There is nothing that says that NSI has to pay any > attention whatsoever to those comments. > > - In order to participate you have to sign a non-disclosure > agreement with NSI, and that NDA is a relatively broad and fierce > document. It basically gives NSI a license to take you to court if > you say a single public word about their system. That is, if you > sign it you run a risk of NSI forcing you into bankruptcy with legal > costs, more or less at their whim, and regardless of any validity of > their claim. > > - The meeting was set up for January 28 (in 4 days), and the > invitation, with the NDA, was sent out just a few days ago. That > doesn't leave a great deal of time to get a lawyer to review the > NDA, and arrange the travel. I don't know when the other TAG > members were asked if they would like to participate, but I believe > the names were given to NSI before Christmas. Given that this > review was required as a part of amendment 11, and thus known for > quite some time, it has taken NSI a rather long time to get in > touch with the invitees, wouldn't you say? > > - Several of the invited participants are overseas, and there is no > funding for them to participate in this exercise -- they pay their > own way. This is despite the fact that amendment 11 mandates that > NSI should create the group. > > - Absolutely no details were known before the belated invitation > was sent -- I didn't know who any of the others were until I got > the letter from Mr Graves, just like you. (In fact, I asked ICANN > about this a couple of times, and they said they had heard nothing, > either.) Therefore the group has absolutely no chance to discuss or > think about how the "review" might take place. > > - The agenda for the one day meeting is purely a dog and pony show > -- NSI will give a series of presentations describing the system, > and their plans for testing. At the end of the day there is an > hour and fifteen minute slot for "open discussion". That is the > extent of the review. > > The real interesting thing here, Gordon, the thing that any real > journalist would notice instantly, is how adroitly NSI has managed to > block any meaningful review of their system. > > Here's the reply I sent to Mr Graves: > > >Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 04:00:19 -0800 > >From: Kent Crispin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Graves, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Technical Advisory Group > > > >Dear Mr. Graves > > > >I recieved the package from FedEx -- Thank you. I have read the > >NDA very closely, and consulted with an attorney concerning it. I > >have been advised that it would not be in my best interest to sign > >the NDA. In fact, I have consulted with a total of 4 attorneys on > >the matter, and all have counseled me at the minimum to approach > >this with extreme caution. > > > >So, unfortunately, I must respectfully decline to participate in > >the TAG. > > > >Thanks for your consideration. > > > >Kent Crispin > > > -- > Kent Crispin, PAB Chair "Do good, and you'll > be > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lonesome." -- Mark Twain > > __________________________________________________ > To receive the digest version instead, send a > blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To SUBSCRIBE forward this message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, forward this message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Problems/suggestions regarding this list? 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