On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 01:11:21PM -0500, Jay Fenello wrote:
> At 3/10/99, 11:14 AM, Martin B. Schwimmer wrote:
> >>> What qualifies as a domain name holder?
> >>> - jay.per.to?
> >>> - johnson.com?
> >>> - bob.aol.com?
> >>> - tom.co.au?
> >>
> >
> >Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED]? does aol allot third level domains?
>
>
> I'm not sure, but according to the following posting,
> AOL has over 1,600,000 third level domains in use!
That's an absolutely meaningless statistic for our purposes. The
domains that aol has are domains like this (pulled from a bit of my
server logs):
166-27-102.ipt.aol.com
167-108-63.ipt.aol.com
167-130-27.ipt.aol.com
167-169-71.ipt.aol.com
171-132-118.ipt.aol.com
171-32-150.ipt.aol.com
171-89-189.ipt.aol.com
174-75-96.ipt.aol.com
174-8-155.ipt.aol.com
203-189-45.ipt.aol.com
204-20-108.ipt.aol.com
204-239-81.ipt.aol.com
207-58-104.ipt.aol.com
cache-da01.proxy.aol.com
cache-da02.proxy.aol.com
cache-da03.proxy.aol.com
cache-da04.proxy.aol.com
cache-da05.proxy.aol.com
cache-da06.proxy.aol.com
cache-da07.proxy.aol.com
cache-da08.proxy.aol.com
cache-da09.proxy.aol.com
cache-da10.proxy.aol.com
cache-da11.proxy.aol.com
cache-da12.proxy.aol.com
cache-da13.proxy.aol.com
cache-db01.proxy.aol.com
cache-db02.proxy.aol.com
cache-db03.proxy.aol.com
cache-db04.proxy.aol.com
cache-db05.proxy.aol.com
cache-db06.proxy.aol.com
cache-db07.proxy.aol.com
cache-db08.proxy.aol.com
cache-db09.proxy.aol.com
cache-db10.proxy.aol.com
cache-db11.proxy.aol.com
cache-db12.proxy.aol.com
cache-db13.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc01.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc02.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc03.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc04.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc05.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc06.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc07.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc08.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc09.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc10.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc11.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc12.proxy.aol.com
cache-dc13.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd01.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd02.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd03.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd04.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd05.proxy.aol.com
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cache-dd07.proxy.aol.com
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cache-dd09.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd10.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd11.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd12.proxy.aol.com
cache-dd13.proxy.aol.com
cache-ra01.proxy.aol.com
cache-ra02.proxy.aol.com
cache-ra03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rb01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rb02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rb03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rc01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rc02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rc03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rd01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rd02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rd03.proxy.aol.com
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cache-rj01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rj02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rj03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rk01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rk02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rk03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rl01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rl02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rl03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rm01.proxy.aol.com
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cache-rm03.proxy.aol.com
cache-rn01.proxy.aol.com
cache-rn02.proxy.aol.com
cache-rn03.proxy.aol.com
cache-ro01.proxy.aol.com
cache-ro02.proxy.aol.com
cache-ro03.proxy.aol.com
spider-ta054.proxy.aol.com
spider-tf053.proxy.aol.com
spider-tf084.proxy.aol.com
spider-th082.proxy.aol.com
spider-tj031.proxy.aol.com
spider-tj041.proxy.aol.com
spider-tk052.proxy.aol.com
spider-tl013.proxy.aol.com
spider-tm024.proxy.aol.com
spider-tm064.proxy.aol.com
spider-tn012.proxy.aol.com
spider-tn023.proxy.aol.com
spider-tn074.proxy.aol.com
spider-to014.proxy.aol.com
spider-to041.proxy.aol.com
spider-to084.proxy.aol.com
spider-tp023.proxy.aol.com
spider-tp041.proxy.aol.com
spider-tq011.proxy.aol.com
spider-tq022.proxy.aol.com
spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com
spider-tq051.proxy.aol.com
spider-tq073.proxy.aol.com
spider-tr021.proxy.aol.com
spider-tr024.proxy.aol.com
spider-tr072.proxy.aol.com
spider-wa022.proxy.aol.com
spider-wa041.proxy.aol.com
spider-wa051.proxy.aol.com
spider-wa063.proxy.aol.com
spider-wb011.proxy.aol.com
spider-wb034.proxy.aol.com
spider-wb044.proxy.aol.com
spider-wc024.proxy.aol.com
spider-wc042.proxy.aol.com
spider-wd034.proxy.aol.com
spider-wd041.proxy.aol.com
spider-we053.proxy.aol.com
spider-wg042.proxy.aol.com
spider-wg044.proxy.aol.com
spider-wg053.proxy.aol.com
spider-wi011.proxy.aol.com
spider-wi021.proxy.aol.com
spider-wi022.proxy.aol.com
spider-wj024.proxy.aol.com
spider-wj043.proxy.aol.com
spider-wj052.proxy.aol.com
spider-wj062.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk011.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk012.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk014.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk053.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk061.proxy.aol.com
spider-wk062.proxy.aol.com
spider-wl032.proxy.aol.com
spider-wl042.proxy.aol.com
spider-wl051.proxy.aol.com
spider-wm023.proxy.aol.com
spider-wm031.proxy.aol.com
spider-wm032.proxy.aol.com
spider-wm034.proxy.aol.com
spider-wn014.proxy.aol.com
spider-wn021.proxy.aol.com
spider-wn031.proxy.aol.com
spider-wn062.proxy.aol.com
spider-wo014.proxy.aol.com
spider-wo021.proxy.aol.com
spider-wo053.proxy.aol.com
spider-wo061.proxy.aol.com
spider-wo063.proxy.aol.com
ww-pa01.proxy.aol.com
ww-pa02.proxy.aol.com
ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
ww-ta01.proxy.aol.com
ww-ta02.proxy.aol.com
ww-ta03.proxy.aol.com
ww-ta04.proxy.aol.com
ww-ta05.proxy.aol.com
The first set actually are the bulk of aol's 3LDs -- they
seem to be domain names generated for dialup users that are dynamically
allocated as people dial in. Notice that they just are algorithmic
mappings of the IP address. Notice too, from the figures below,
that the figures are by hosts, not number of domains, and that by far
the largest portion of the "hosts" are on on aols "ipt.aol.com".
Note further that "hosts" is an incorrect term -- "IP address" is
the correct term -- they have absolutely no way of detecting
interfaces with multiple IP addresses...
The same is true for uunet and most of the other large ISPs -- they
do not, contrary to the myth you are perpetrating, serve as public
registries of large numbers of domain names -- they are simply
naming IP addresses on their own networks.
This example also illustrates why there is some necessity for
technical clue in DNS policy, and also that many of the most vocal
participants simply don't have that clue.
> FYI:
>
>
> At 2/24/99, 08:07 PM, Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim wrote:
> >
> >=== ZCZC F.31 == (Forwarded from Mark Lottor) ====================
> >
> >Internet Domain Survey Network Wizards January 1999
> >
> > <http://www.nw.com>
> >
> >The Domain Survey attempts to discover every host on the Internet
> >by doinga complete search of the Domain Name System. The latest
> >survey was done during late January 1999. The complete results
> >can be found on our web site. Here is a summary of the more
> >interesting things:
> > -- Mark Lottor
> >
> >
> >Hosts found (number of PTR records): 43,230,000
> >
> >Hosts pingable: 8,426,000
> > [estimated by pinging 1% of total hosts found]
> >
> >Top 10 TLDs (number of hosts):
> > com 12140747 mil 1510440
> > net 8856687 uk 1423804
> > edu 5022815 de 1316893
> > jp 1687534 ca 1119172
> > us 1562391 au 792351
> >
> >Top 10 second-level domains (number of hosts):
> >
> > 1667245 aol.com 585233 co.uk
> > 1238252 uu.net 505645 ne.jp
> > 848820 ans.net 485316 bbn.com
> > 708159 ac.uk 424038 or.jp
> > 637202 af.mil 403169 att.net
> >
> >Top 10 third-level domains (number of hosts):
> >
> > 1657627 ipt.aol.com 296541 pub-ip.psi.net
> > 1213999 da.uu.net 280735 demon.co.uk
> > 817846 dialup.ans.net 226000 k12.ca.us
> > 465891 saturn.bbn.com 181681 us.ibm.net
> > 400796 dial-access.att.net 145918 k12.mn.us
> >
> >Top 10 hostnames:
> >
> > 872992 www 17225 ns
> > 141835 host 14759 ftp
> > 84130 mail 13680 gw
> > 62756 dummy 10102 server
> > 22849 router 9884 user
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Jay Fenello
> President, Iperdome, Inc.
> 404-943-0524 http://www.iperdome.com
--
Kent Crispin "Do good, and you'll be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] lonesome." -- Mark Twain
