Esther and all,

  More political BULLHOCKY from you Esther.  You should be ashamed!
Keep it up if you wish.  Nobody believes you anyway.  Your own public
comments belie this comment as they have so many times before.

Esther Dyson wrote:

> THere *is* something in the Board minutes about it; I will find the wording
> and pass it along, but I'm in an airplane right now.  As I said to Joop,
> sincerely, I did not want to talk with him privately about this but
> preferred to answer his legitimate questions in public, which I tried to do
> earlier today.  We are not trying to "fob you off" with this argument; we
> are trying to figre out how to achieve the proper balance, and, like you, we
> think that a larger membership is better, all things being equal. One
> trade-off is size of membership in numbers vs. involvement/knowledgeability
> of members.  (Of course, you try to move the trade-off curve as well as move
> *along* the curve.)
>
> Esther Dyson
>
> At , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Dear supporters of the idea that Individuals need their representation on
> the DNSO.
> >
> >Just a brief message at this point. When I'm back in New Zealand I will
> have the chance to digest all that has happened a bit better.
> >
> >It has been an emotional up and down.
> >Yesterday, when we were handed the Board resolutions, I was dismayed that
> there was absolutely nothing about our application in it.
> >
> >Not even a polite acknowledgement of our efforts and our application for a
> separate constituency.
> >
> >I called Esther and asked if she could give me a private indication of what
> was wrong with our application to deserve such a treatment.
> >
> >She preferred to refer to our application in public at the presscon the
> next day.
> >
> >This is what happened just now. She gave me the chance to speak again, this
> time with the press present.
> >
> >I did so and generated a little deeper debate.  Let's hope the press deals
> with it intelligently.
> >
> >The upshot is, that ICANN did make a (not-published) resolution on our
> application.
> >"We have looked at it, debated it at length and decided not to take any
> action on it at this moment".
> >
> >The reason for this stance was also explained.
> >Balanced representation on the ICANN board (individual users vs. commercial
> stakeholders)
> >has to be achieved both through the at -large membership and the DNSO.
> >
> >What will be accepted in the DNSO will depend on how finally the membership
> will be qualified.
> >
> >It has not yet been decided that there will be an "all users" membership,
> even though that is the recommendation of the MAC.
> >
> >We just have to be very vigilant that we will not be fobbed off with this
> argument.
> >
> >We need to grow exponentially before we are considered at the Santiago
> meeting on 24 August.
> >We have to present ourselves as a critical and responsible partner in the
> process of building fair representation in Internet Governance.
> >
> >We can do it.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >--Joop--
> >
> >
> >
>
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