John and all,

  Ah, yes you are of course correct John.  I stand corrected.  I guess
I was thinking of "We the people".  My mistake.

John B. Reynolds wrote:

> Kerry Miller wrote;
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > > >  I trust the contrast to conventional rant is clear. One does
> > not start
> > > > with the grounds and somehow try to 'convince' by browbeating or
> > > > bullshit or specious argument that 'therefore' someone else 'must'
> > > > agree.
> > >
> > >   Agreed, one must look at the relevant facts in evidence past and
> > > present and than make a determination.  Once that determination is
> > > made on an individual basis, than one should have the opportunity
> > > to VOTE.  This in the US constitution is the meaning of "We hold these
> > > truths to be self evident"...
> >
> > The Constitution however did not posit *all truths to be self-evident -
> > or, more generally, that all the 'relevant facts' were going to be
> > visible to any one person. <...>
>
> Actually, the phrase in question doesn't even appear in the Constitution.
> It's from the Declaration of Independence.

Regards,

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