> > So let's not hear any more of this nonesense that we individuals should be
> > satisfied with membership in the At Large Membership and forego any
> > meaningful voice in the policymaking of the DNSO.

>   While I recognize that there are certain important issues that will 
> be dealt with in the DNSO, what if there were other identifiable 
> issues which were appropriately (according to the Bylaws) initiated 
> by the AL membership? (I keep wanting to call it a supporting 
> organization, but that leads to the unfortunate acronym ALSO...)

There were those of us who during last summer's "discussions" advocated a
much stronger role for general membership and a stronger board vis-a-vis
the supporting organizations.

I suggest you take a look at what the Boston Working Group proposed.
Copies are on-line at the NTIA web site or http://www.cavebear.com/bwg/

However, the IANA push was for very strong Supporting Organizations and a
very weak board.  Indeed, one of the most common notions floating around
in those days was that the technical community had to protect the Internet
from the technically-challanged (much stronger wording was actually used)
Board.  That weak-board/strong SO form still exists within ICANN.  I doubt
that we will be able to change it.

> If it happened that those issues got themselves focussed on (not, of
> course, _organized around) before too much more water flows over the
> commercial/ non-commercial dam, is it so inconceivable that the
> workings of the Elected Board could be substantially influenced as it
> comes to consider various SO proposals?

Remember, the elected board is just a part of the board.  And the ICANN
board has only very weak powers to interfere with policies made by the
various Supporting Organizations.

Part of the BWG proposals was to significantly change that balance.  But
that was one of the points we didn't get.

So it remains the case that the general membership has the ability to
elect board members who are, themselves, rather close to powerless when
confronting a policy choice made by a Supporting Organization.

Here's the relevant parts of the ICANN by-laws.  Be careful not to read
too much into section (f) -- it is not triggered until the an SO has sent
in a proposal with the Board rejects under (e).  If there is no SO
proposal -- as when the board decides that it would be good to get rid of
an existing, already board-adopted SO proposal, then section (f) doesn't
come into play.


ARTICLE VI:  SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS 

Section 2:  RESPONSIBILITIES AND POWERS   

(e) Subject to the provisions of Article III, Section 3, the Board
    shall accept the recommendations of a Supporting Organization if the
    Board finds that the recommended policy

      (1) furthers the purposes of, and is in the best interest of, the Corporation;

      (2) is consistent with the Articles and Bylaws;

      (3) was arrived at through fair and open processes (including participation
          by representatives of other Supporting Organizations if requested);

    and

      (4) is not reasonably opposed by any other Supporting Organization.

    No recommendation of a Supporting Organization shall be adopted unless
    the votes in favor of adoption would be sufficient for adoption by the
    Board without taking account of either the Directors selected by the
    Supporting Organization or their votes.

(f)  If the Board declines to accept any recommendation of a Supporting
     Organization, it shall return the recommendation to the Supporting
     Organization for further consideration, along with a statement of the
     reasons it declines to accept the recommendation.  If, after
     reasonable efforts, the Board does not receive a recommendation from
     the Supporting Organization that it finds meets the standards of
     Section 2(e) of this Article VI or, after attempting to mediate any
     disputes or disagreements between Supporting Organizations, receives
     conflicting recommendations from Supporting Organizations, and the
     Board finds there is a justification for prompt action, the Board may
     initiate, amend or modify and then approve a specific policy
     recommendation. 

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