On 07-Nov-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Got RBL'd so you are using a free email service now, huh?
Just so people know his real motive here.
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>> Planet Communications & Computing Facility
>> Tel: 1 (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033
>> Fax: 1 (419) 821-8581
>>
>> November 7, 1999
>>
>>
>> Mr. Paul Vixie
>> Internet software Consortium
>> 950 Charter Street
>> Redwood City, CA 94063 Faxed: 1.650.779.7055
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Vixie:
>>
>> I am writing to you today with respect to a Mr. David Conrad your
>> executive director. Mr. Conrad has made a number of statements in the
>> newsgroup comp.protocols.dns.bind which are false and misleading.
>>
>> In his email dated November 3rd, 1999 Mr. Conrad said "PCCF has _no_
>> relation whatsoever with ISC, we don't know who these people are, what
>> they are trying to do, why they are trying to do it, or whether they can
>> be trusted". This statement is a lie. We have contacted you on a number
>> of occasions concerning the bind survey. We have attempted to enlist your
>> assistance in closing down security issues related to you negligence in
>> programming bind 4.9.5, 4.9.6 and 8.1.1.
>>
>> So to claim the ISC has no knowledge of us and our intentions is a lie
>> which I assume has been made for no better purpose then to reduce your
>> liability and exposure to your own negligence.
>>
>> Mr. Vixie this culture of lies you support must stop. This orgy of
>> deception must end. Your failures and negligence in developing BIND can
>> not be buried in some dark corner of the Internet, away from prying eyes.
>> On the contrary, I see your failures and negligence as an opportunity to
>> build a better and more secure Internet infrastructure.
>>
>> In closing may I suggest you pick up Joy Berry's children's book about
>> "Lying" and pass it out to your staff as required reading. It is an
>> excellent book on the virtues of telling the truth - and it has many
>> pretty pictures.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Joe Baptista, Director
>>
>> encl: 1
>>
>> Subject:
>> Statement on 'PCCF and the "BIND Survey"'
>> Date:
>> 3 Nov 1999 12:39:55 -0800
>> From:
>> "David R. Conrad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Organization:
>> none
>> Newsgroups:
>> comp.protocols.dns.bind
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Apologies for duplicates -- having to do a bit of firefighting here]
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently, a group of individuals calling themselves the "Planet
>> Communications &
>> Computing Facility" (PCCF) sent mass unsolicited electronic mail to the
>> point of
>> contact e-mail address listed in the SOA records of (apparently) every
>> zone they
>> could reach claiming (in part):
>>
>> "We conduct and maintain the BIND (Berkley Internet Name Daemon)
>> survey databases."
>>
>> and stating or inferring their Canadian-based organization (with a domain
>> creation date of 1999 as documented in their whois record) has for "years"
>> been
>> "assisting the United States Government and the Department of Defense" in
>> closing "security holes" in the DNS infrastructure.
>>
>> As a result of their mass unsolicited e-mail that implies an association
>> with
>> BIND, ISC has received numerous questions about PCCF, their motives,
>> methods,
>> and intentions. In addition, several individuals have lodged "spam"
>> complaints
>> and questioned whether ISC has taken part in, sponsored, or otherwise
>> supports
>> "the PCCF spam".
>>
>> For the record:
>>
>> - PCCF has _no_ relation whatsoever with ISC, we don't know who these
>> people are, what they are trying to do, why they are trying to do
>> it, or whether they can be trusted;
>>
>> - PCCF has _no_ connection with BIND other than (presumably) using
>> BIND as their DNS server, they are not an ISC support customer or
>> contributor, nor have we (to my knowledge) received any bug
>> reports or other constructive information on DNS security from them;
>>
>> - the PCCF "survey" which purports to identify DNS vulnerabilities is
>> _completely_ unrelated to the joint ISC / Network Wizard Domain
>> Name survey which merely counts domains and has done so since 1991
>> as a metric of Internet growth (see http://www.isc.org/survey.html
>> for details);
>>
>> - ISC strongly agrees with the IAB statement regarding the necessity
>> of a single domain name system root and disagrees with the PCCF
>> political characterization of ICANN at the end of their mass
>> mailing;
>>
>> - ISC does not support "spam" in anyway and we nominate spamming
>> organizations to the RBL (see http://mail-abuse.org);
>>
>> and
>>
>> - BIND stands for "Berkeley Internet Name Domain" (according to the
>> original authors) not "Berkley Internet Name Daemon".
>>
>> Any complaints, flames, etc. regarding the PCCF "survey" should be sent to
>> Joe
>> Baptista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, NOT to the Internet Software Consortium.
>>
>> Speaking personally, while I think a survey of the security of domain name
>> servers could be of value, I am highly skeptical of the claims PCCF has
>> made and
>> strongly suspect the individuals involved are merely using their "survey"
>> as an
>> attempt to justify spamming their position on ICANN to every SOA contact
>> in the
>> DNS for political reasons.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -drc
>> Executive Director, Internet Software Consortium
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> J. Baptista Planet Communications & Computing Facility
>> Voice/Fax (212) 894-3704 ext. 1033
>> http://www.pccf.net/
>>
>>
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