I support the point of getting the ICANN GAC meetings totally open.
If the BOARD meetings are open there is no reason that the
GOVERMENT meetings are closed.
This meetings are about the INTERNET, and the White Paper
called to the stakeholders to manage the internet. These are not
the times when the internet was born... THIS internet is not for the
militars, CIA, or other bodies. THIS is internet is a commercial,
social, cultural tool for the improvement of the bussiness, social
and cultural issues all around the world. There is no issue that
ANY goverment can speak about in secret. If they can speak in
secreat they can be reunited in any other time in a goverment-to-
goverment fashion.
The wall of Berlin is history, the MacDonalds frachise is in China,
let's dont build a new so powerfull body, let's not build a new
"WALL of silence" on this new internet.
Somebody told once that in Dinamark all this affairs are public,
I wonder if there is some europeans that can have access to all
the documents that have been discussed on the GAC meetings.
Regards,
Javier
At 11/10/99 9:40:00 AM, you wrote:
>Tony --
>Congrats on your ability to crash the GAC meeting and open it a
>bit. This what happens when there is government by committee
>instead of government by law. We need a legitimate constitution.
>--ken
>
>
>
>>At 12:42 AM 11/8/99 , you wrote:
>>>Who was that southern bell you crashed the GAC meeting with? And I
>>>understand the Irish delegate allowed you to speak - what happened there?
>>
>>It's a wonderful story with a happy ending.
>>
>>The three activist lawyers in LA - Nader's
>>Theresa Amato, Cleve Thornton representing
>>Tajikistan, and myself decided we would
>>insist on our rights under the ICANN Bylaws
>>to open meetings of the GAC.
>>
>>So, on Tuesday morning at the appointed hour
>>of the GAC, we stood in the room as all the
>>good GACsters stared and wondered who we were.
>>
>>The GAC Secretariat representative - a slight
>>young Aussie - came over and insisted that we
>>leave. We respond with a polite "no," that we
>>were going to stay and watch.
>>
>>She went and huddled with her boss, Paul Twomey,
>>and then came back and re-iterated her order.
>>Cleve then looked down and in a polite southern
>>drawl, and said "young lady, if you want me to leave,
>>you're going to have to pick me up and move me."
>>
>>To appreciate this sight, one has to see Cleve.
>>He's about 6 ft, 5 inches, tall and must weigh
>>300 lbs. He also ran the ACLU in Alabama during
>>the heydays of the civil rights movement, and
>>is quite experienced in passive resistance.
>>
>>More huddling with Twomey.
>>
>>Meanwhile Theresa went to the tables and found
>>a list of attendees. It listed several "observers"
>>at the bottom. We then approached Twomey and asked
>>if we could be observers. He responded that we
>>needed the sponsorship of a governmental representative.
>>
>>So we went over to the US government representative
>>and formally asked to be observers. She firmly
>>declined. However, the representative of Ireland,
>>Aidan Ryan, overhearing our plea, came over and
>>offered to make us accredited observers of Ireland!
>>
>>So we returned to Twomey with this arrangement.
>>However, the response was "no can do - you need
>>your own government representative."
>>
>>So then we noticed that ICANN staff were present,
>>and questioned the appropriateness of a double
>>standard. At this point, Paul Twomey to his credit
>>relented and established a new rule for everyone
>>that as long as there was a non-governmental person
>>in the room, it would be an open meeting. As a
>>result, both the ICANN report and subsequent ccTLD
>>dialogue portions of the GAC became open, and a
>>new, more open general rule was established.
>>
>>What was particularly amusing, however, was that
>>a few minutes later, one of the most powerful U.S.
>>Congressmen in Washington, Chris Cannon, and his
>>legislative assistant Todd Thorpe, unexpectedly
>>strode into the room and sat down prominently up
>>front. When it came time for us to leave, the
>>US GAC representative quickly added Cannon and
>>Thorpe as observers, and were not asked to leave.
>>
>>During the open ccTLD session, Twomey even volunteered
>>to distribute the Internet Rights Coalition brief
>>to the GAC and allowed a short presentation on the
>>legal issues.
>>
>>--amr
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