Wrongaroonie, Einar --
The goal is a decentralized network of independent democracies,
just as we need individuals practicing reponsible self rule from a
common global sense of our deep interactivity. That how genuine
freedom and democracy can work best. Isn't it time for us humans
to outgrow our addiction to despots? Or do we still fear adulthood?
-- ken
Ken Freed, Publisher
Media Visions Journal
http://www.media-visions.com
"Deep literacy makes global sense."
>And then we can undertake to create a global constitution for the
>Global Economy, and then take on any other edge controlled
>environments which also surely\ need to have a constitution, to apply
>Centralized Democratic Government.
>
>Enjoy your trip;-)...
>
>At 12:47 -0600 07/09/01, Ken Freed wrote:
>>Seems to me any effort to work within ICANN
>>to acheive "network democracy" is innately an
>>act of self-deception, continuing the public lie
>>that ICANN is a legitimate government. It isn't.
>>
>>There has never been a public vote to privatise
>>our public Internet. There has never been a public
>>vote to grant any governance power to ICANN. The
>>emperor is clothed in a fabric of veiled delusions.
>>
>>I still advocate a global Internet constitution, so we
>>have a governmewnt of laws not committees.
>>
>>Ken Freed
>>Media Visions Journal
>>http://www.media-visions.com
>>
>>"Deep literacy makes global sense"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >(fixed)
>> >
>> >>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:21:30 -0500
>> >>From: "ooblick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Subject: Re: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, ignore,
>> >>sorry))
>> >>To: "Dan Steinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
>> >>Content-Type: text/plain
>> >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2001 12:18:55.0359 (UTC)
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>> >>
>> >>Hear hear. So i am going on vacation. The fix was in from the get go
>> >>and all we were was pawns to lend legitimacy to their fabricated claims
>> >>of consensus.
>> >>
>> >>See you next week. I'm going diving.
>> >>>---- Original Message ---
>> >>>From: Dan Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>Cc:
>> >>>Subject: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, ignore,
>> >>>sorry))
>> >>>
>> >>>Well to counter your argument I would say that I went to IFWP meetings
>> >>>all over
>> >>>the globe, went to an ICANN meeting or two. I worked on the at-large
>> >>>issue in
>> >>>good faith in the first Membership Advisory Committee. I believe I was
>> >>>very awake
>> >>>during the entire process, with gusts to diligent. What did all that
>> >>>work get?
>> >>>not much I think. I am not funded to work on lost causes.
>>Those that go to
>> >>>Montevideo are funded to act and more than a couple of them will have a
>> >>>pre-set
>> >>>agenda. Unless you want to fund everyone on this list to show up
>>and make a
>> >>>presence felt, I think sleeping is the more economical course.
>> >>>
>> >>>Marc Schneiders wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Why we should wake up fast? Quite a few people are on their way to
>> >>>> Montevideo right now. A couple of them may try to determine a lot of
>> >>>> things on their own there without real input from those affected. The
>> >>>> ALSC preliminary report leaves not much hope for a change to the
>> >>>> better. Now, if it would be a good, thorough, well argued report, in
>> >>>> whi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >--
>> > "But at the end of the day, even if you put a calico dress on
>> > it and call it Florence, a pig is still a pig."
>> > -- Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp. et al., 2001 U.S. Dist.
>> > LEXIS 8962, (S. D. Tex., 2001).
>> >
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