Hi Everyone,

For an excellent summary of where we are
heading, check out the online book:
    http://www.winwinworld.net/book/

I've embraced many of the concept there,
as can be seen on:
    http://www.fenello.com
    http://www.aligningwithpurpose.com

FYI & FWIW,

Jay.


At 9/8/01  02:27 PM, Ken Freed wrote:
>Wrongaroonie, Einar --
>The goal is a decentralized network of independent democracies,
>just as we need individuals practicing reponsible self rule from a
>common global sense of our deep interactivity. That how genuine
>freedom and democracy can work best. Isn't it time for us humans
>to outgrow our addiction to despots? Or do we still fear adulthood?
>-- ken
>
>Ken Freed, Publisher
>Media Visions Journal
>http://www.media-visions.com
>
>"Deep literacy makes global sense."
>
>
>
> >And then we can undertake to create a global constitution for the
> >Global Economy, and then take on any other edge controlled
> >environments which also surely\ need to have a constitution, to apply
> >Centralized Democratic Government.
> >
> >Enjoy your trip;-)...
> >
> >At 12:47 -0600 07/09/01, Ken Freed wrote:
> >>Seems to me any effort to work within ICANN
> >>to acheive "network democracy" is innately an
> >>act of self-deception, continuing the public lie
> >>that ICANN is a legitimate government. It isn't.
> >>
> >>There has never been a public vote to privatise
> >>our public Internet. There has never been a public
> >>vote to grant any governance power to ICANN. The
> >>emperor is clothed in a fabric of veiled delusions.
> >>
> >>I still advocate a global Internet constitution, so we
> >>have a governmewnt of laws not committees.
> >>
> >>Ken Freed
> >>Media Visions Journal
> >>http://www.media-visions.com
> >>
> >>"Deep literacy makes global sense"
> >>
> >>
> >>  >(fixed)
> >>  >
> >>  >>Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:21:30 -0500
> >>  >>From: "ooblick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>Subject: Re: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, 
> ignore,
> >>  >>sorry))
> >>  >>To: "Dan Steinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>  >>Content-Type: text/plain
> >>  >>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2001 12:18:55.0359 (UTC)
> >>  >>FILETIME=[EE94E8F0:01C13604]
> >>  >>
> >>  >>Hear hear.  So i am going on vacation.  The fix was in from the get go
> >>  >>and all we were was pawns to lend legitimacy to their fabricated claims
> >>  >>of consensus.
> >>  >>
> >>  >>See you next week. I'm going diving.
> >>  >>>---- Original Message ---
> >>  >>>From: Dan Steinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>  >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  >>>Cc:
> >>  >>>Subject: Re: Why wake up? (Re: [IFWP] Is this list up? (Test, ignore,
> >>  >>>sorry))
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>Well to counter your argument I would say that I went to IFWP meetings
> >>  >>>all over
> >>  >>>the globe, went to an ICANN meeting or two.  I worked on the at-large
> >>  >>>issue in
> >>  >>>good faith in the first Membership Advisory Committee.  I believe 
> I was
> >>  >>>very awake
> >>  >>>during the entire process, with gusts to diligent.  What did all that
> >>  >>>work get?
> >>  >>>not much I think.  I am not funded to work on lost causes.
> >>Those that go to
> >>  >>>Montevideo are funded to act and more than a couple of them will 
> have a
> >>  >>>pre-set
> >>  >>>agenda. Unless you want to fund everyone on this list to show up
> >>and make a
> >>  >>>presence felt, I think sleeping is the more economical course.
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>Marc Schneiders wrote:
> >>  >>>
> >>  >>>> Why we should wake up fast? Quite a few people are on their way to
> >>  >>>> Montevideo right now. A couple  of them may try to determine a 
> lot of
> >>  >>>> things on their own there without real input from those 
> affected. The
> >>  >>>> ALSC preliminary report leaves not much hope for a change to the
> >>  >>>> better. Now, if it would be a good, thorough, well argued report, in
> >>  >>>> whi
> >>  >>
> >>  >
> >>  >--
> >>  >     "But at the end of the day, even if you put a calico dress on
> >>  >      it and call it Florence, a pig is still a pig."
> >>  >      -- Bradshaw v. Unity Marine Corp. et al., 2001 U.S. Dist.
> >>  >      LEXIS 8962, (S. D. Tex., 2001).
> >>  >
> >>  >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]     [EMAIL PROTECTED]     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>

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