I must be a geek. When I saw that the article number was "386" I laughed... And then remembered that math coprocessors were optional back then.
-- Kyle Gonzales Sent from my mobile On Nov 8, 2010, at 7:41 PM, Paul Tiseo <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay. You "win". Everyone should be using Firebird. Nevermind what I said. > > PS: I was reminded of this xkcd panel <http://xkcd.com/386/>. > > _________________________________ > *PAUL TISEO* > [email protected] > (904) 382-5704 (cell) > > On 11/8/2010 4:30 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 21:12 +0000, [email protected] wrote: >>> Two points: >>> >>> 1. No backup tools for Postgres? pg_dump, pg_dumpall, log shipping and >>> lots of scripts and third-party utilities. Have *you* looked? >> Yes, and they are not the same. How do you do a dump against a live db >> with active transactions? Is there any transaction cleanup, sweeps >> happening during backup? What about restoring that backup? >> >> http://www.destructor.de/firebird/gbak.htm >> http://www.firebirdsql.org/manual/gbak.htm >> http://www.firebirdsql.org/manual/nbackup-overview.html >> >> I have looked and researched database backup tools extensively and it >> blows me away still. How you can have an enterprise database without >> such tools as part of the RDBMS software. But seems there are several :) >> >>> 2. Yes, I have looked. No need for condescension. >> Well when you say documentation does not exist, yet it has for close to >> a decade now... ;) >> >> Like this outdated site I could not recall before, running like >> InterBase 4.0 or something. >> http://www.cvalde.net >> >> People get confused that in many senses like with past documentation >> Firebird == InterBase. So you might have been looking for Firebird >> specific documentation, and not finding any. Because its been covered >> already under InterBase documentation. Which there is countless amounts >> of stuff on InterBase on the net. >> >>> Yes, there is documentation for both, and we could split hairs of an >>> angel on a pinhead all day :) >> Sure and when I first started out with Firebird/InterBase, it was on a >> Cobalt that also had PostgreSQL. But Cobalt was promoting use of >> InterBase which had just become free. >> >> PostgreSQL is part of the Ingress family of databases. >> >> Since the mid-1980s, Ingres has spawned a number of commercial database >> applications, including Sybase, Microsoft SQL Server, NonStop SQL and a >> number of others. Postgres (Post Ingres), a project which started in the >> mid-1980s, later evolved into PostgreSQL >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingres_%28database%29 >> >> >>> , but IMO Postgres is more polished, more documented and has a bigger >>> breadth of material available. >> Those are pure opinions >> >>> It's also more prevalent with a bigger community, all of which >>> (should) matters a lot to someone learning SQL and databases. >> Again more opinions and speculations. Do not assume because Firebird is >> not big in FOSS its not big. Its been in use before there was a >> PostgreSQL. Keep that fact in mind. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL#History >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterBase#History >> >> The Blob and many other things that are common in all databases came >> from InterBases creators and history. Facts not opinions. >> >> Blobs were originally just amorphous chunks of data invented by Jim >> Starkey at DEC, >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blob_%28computing%29 >> http://www.cvalde.net/misc/blob_true_history.htm >> >> Again Jim Starkey created Groton, later renamed InterBase, and now >> morphed into Firebird. Jim worked for MySQL, along with his wife Ann >> Harrison. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Starkey >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]
