On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:15 -0400, Paul Tiseo wrote: > Actually, in my experience, it's the opposite of William's statement. > Maybe I'm alone on this. Don't know.
I doubt it, peoples experiences in life will most always vary. Rarely are we totally alone in any point of view. Which does not make any one right or the other. I do believe in majority rules, but that does not mean majority is correct :) > But, I can't stop counting the number of times that "necessity" came > from having *very little* investment but *having *to essentially get a > return on it to do silly little things like keep dishing out payroll. > Guerilla marketing, novel uses for obscure hardware, "poor man's" > version of six-figure enterprise systems that turn into new software > ideas, etc, etc, etc. Yes arguments can be made on both sides. However doing what you have to in order to get bills paid today. Might mean your taking an less than ideal approach, if you did not have the pressure. Then again sometimes pressure can lead to things that might not come about otherwise. > That happened repeatedly in every startups I've been involved with. > > I guess one of the possible ways this conversation may get muddled is: > are we just talking creativity or innovation or both, since they are so > closely tied? I would probably say both. But again its more from the perspective of, does the professional have anything to benefit or gain from association and interaction with hobbyists. I think its much easier to make the case that hobbyists can benefit from association and interaction with professionals, than vice versa. For example say we have a presentation at a JaxLUG meeting geared towards hobbyists and/or few professionals show up at the meeting. Professionals should not avoid the JaxLUG or any meeting thinking that there is nothing to gain. I think there is something to be gained and benefit each. Surely not everyone all the time, that is way to Utopian. Many times hobbyists become professionals, just the same as professionals still have hobbies. Not to mention roles can change based on topic. I don't think the two are as far apart and some might perceive them to be, all stand something to gain and benefit from the other most times. -- William L. Thomson Jr. Obsidian-Studios, Inc. http://www.obsidian-studios.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml Unsubscribe [email protected]
