Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 17-Oct-99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i> Hi Chris, i> Noone seems to have answerd you, so I'll try ... thanx. Nice to know I wasn't completely ignored... ;-) i> I haven't had a look at the selma source code, but I think that this i> behaviour is caused by rebols email data-type: I'm not sure. I have my real-name data configured with my email address in my user.r 'set-net. (see below...) i> There's no place to save the additional real-name data in this, like: i> "Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" Try converting this string! to an email! with 'to-email... you will be surprised. (again see below...) [...] i>>> send to-email "me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" "This is a test" i> connecting to: fuchur.2b1.de i> ** User Error: Server error: tcp 501 <me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: "@" or "." expected after "me". i> ** Where: insert port reduce data Now if you convert your string! to an email! like this, it seems to work. >> b: system/user/email == "Christopher Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" >> type? b == string! >> b: to-email b == Christopher%20Elliott%20<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> type? b == email! Now when I use 'b as email! to send a test mail to myself, I don't get an error. >> send to-email b "this is a test" connecting to: mail.crosswinds.net >> This is the raw email that I got back (indented here to separate it from this email text...). Received: by dot.crosswinds.net (mbox sembazuru) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Oct 17 13:44:57 1999) X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct 17 13:43:47 1999 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from phf-pa5-31.ix.netcom.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.111.193.31]) by dot.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06122 for <Christopher Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:43:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Christopher Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Christopher Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:43:45 -0400 Subject: this is a test X-REBOL: 2.1.90.1.1 "The Internet Messaging Language (TM) WWW.REBOL.COM" this is a test Not only did it properly understand 'b as email!, but it also properly handled system/user/email for the From: header. So I guess we are back to asking why SELMA likes to strip the real-name data from mails that it processes. (Or is it not SELMA, but some other part of the system that SELMA runs on for this list. Remember I don't have any experience with other SELMA-run lists so I don't know if this stripping is common to SELMA or only to this list.) Pax -- Member: Team AMIGA --} WatchDog Fingerprint: 2C 8A 03 3C D6 D3 32 7F (Chris Elliott) 66 0F 9B 9F 03 77 1D 85 PGP Key ID: A6A79259 <tsb>Heyyyyyyy Abbot, I'm a Baaaaaad Boy!