Running a similar set up to John. I like the sound of that default patching
rule though. Nice!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Marcum, John <[email protected]> wrote:

> I do something very similar but I have it down to 4 sets of server MW
> collections and I use AD groups to define the collections. The server
> admins are responsible for putting each server in a group. If they fail to
> do so then the server is patched using a “default” patching rule that
> basically patches and reboots it. J
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> *              Desktop Architect*
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mote, Todd
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:45 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
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> We’ve been patching about 400 servers for a number of years that range
> from domain controllers to exchange, SQL, and everything in between.  The
> TL;DR is “Maintenance Windows are your friend.”
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> We have about 100 collections that are nothing more than maintenance
> window collections that servers get put in.  I don’t admin all of them so
> the local admin lets us know what window they want and the server goes into
> that collection.  Nothing is deployed to these collections, they only apply
> MW’s.
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> We have separate collections where things get advertised to, like Software
> Updates.  Each deployment has its own settings about whether to ignore or
> respect maintenance windows.  Every deployment is always set to be
> available as soon as possible and deadline as soon as possible if it’s set
> to respect maintenance windows.  Then, at the MW time, it patches and
> reboots.
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>
> Our exchange 2010 environment is about 30 servers, CAS’s start patching on
> Thursday mornings and the mailboxes patch on Sunday mornings, the rest are
> scattered around between them and their windows don’t overlap.  Domain
> controllers patch one a night over a week.  If servers have clusters or
> some failover requirement we work with the server admin to set up automated
> processes to occur 10 minutes before the window begins to move resources
> from node to node to facilitate patching.  We do this for failover clusters
> and FSMO roles on DC’s.
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>
> If you have services that are resilient, and Microsoft doesn’t break
> anything with bad patches, patching servers is pretty easy, not much
> different than clients, to be honest.  In fact, if you give clients
> maintenance windows too it works out great, everybody knows when their
> computers will reboot, but that’s another discussion.
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> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Duncan McAlynn
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:46 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
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> I have just a little experience in this… ;-)
>
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> Honestly, I would strongly recommend taking a look at Infront’s OPAS
> solution that can make this almost a no-brainer. It really does help remove
> all the pain points you’ve talked about addressing. You can learn more at:
> http://www.infrontconsulting.com/opas
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> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Russ
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 05, 2016 5:00 PM
> *To:* mssms
> *Subject:* [mssms] Patching servers with SCCM
>
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>
> We've been patching our servers with WSUS up until this point, but we'd
> like to move over to SCCM.  I wanted to get an idea on how people are
> handling their 2 and 3 tier applications?  Currently we have a number of
> different windows to patch the SQL servers, then app tier, then web tier or
> whatever.  But what I am hoping is to make things a bit more well defined
> (and to start building collections for various applications and that sort
> of thing.)
>
>
>
> Do you suppress reboots on servers, and then send out a script for
> rebooting?  Do you make maintenance schedules which would cause reboots in
> certain order?   Do you patch or reboot manually?  What sorts of
> methodologies do you deploy?
>
>
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> It would be nice to put a process and methodology in place so that it's
> not reinventing the wheel for every individual group of servers.
>
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> We don't currently have SCCM in place for servers, so that's all new as
> well.  So we sort of have a unique opportunity to start fresh.
>
>
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> Would appreciate any feedback or ideas you have give me.
>
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> Thanks, Russ
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