Ok here is what we saw yesterday in the UpdatesDeployment.log,
MaintenanceCoordinator.log, and RebootCoordinator.log:
UpdatesDeployment.log (10.0.9.61)
Automatic required software installation during non-business hours is selected
UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016 3:17:49 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
No current service window available to run updates assignment with time
required = 1 UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016 3:17:49 PM 4808
(0x12C8)
IsRebootNeeded: nNotifyUICount = 15, set overal NotifyUI = True
UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016 3:17:49 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
No installations in pipeline, notify reboot. NotifyUI = True
UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016 3:17:49 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Notify reboot with deadline = Wednesday, Jan 27, 2016. - 15:17:50, Ignore
reboot Window = False, NotifyUI = True UpdatesDeploymentAgent
01/27/2016 3:17:50 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
User logoff system task UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016 3:31:54 PM
6652 (0x19FC)
Service startup system task UpdatesDeploymentAgent 01/27/2016
3:38:03 PM 6292 (0x1894)
Software Updates feature is enabled UpdatesDeploymentAgent
01/27/2016 3:38:03 PM 6292 (0x1894)
MaintenanceCoordinator.log (10.0.9.61)
No CCM Identification blob MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 9:12:17 AM 4072 (0x0FE8)
CWriteFilterHandler::IsInServiceMode = 0 MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 9:12:17 AM 4072 (0x0FE8)
Removing tasks for agent "RebootCoord". MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 9:12:27 AM 712 (0x02C8)
Failed to get task state for '{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}'. Error
0x87d00317 MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:02
PM 5716 (0x1654)
Adding task for client "updatesmgr": id -
"{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}", pri - 20, service window - 0, max
time for sw - 3900. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:02 PM
5716 (0x1654)
Calling to Disable Write Filter. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:02 PM 5716 (0x1654)
EWFManager: No EWF Library found. Nothing to do... MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:02 PM 5716 (0x1654)
FbwfManager: No FBWF Library found. Nothing to do...
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:02 PM 5716 (0x1654)
Unable to open WMI namespace, "root\standardcimv2\embedded". HRESULT =
0x8004100e MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:02
PM 5716 (0x1654)
Setting Maintenance Mode to FALSE MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM 5716 (0x1654)
SuspendProtection: Reboot not required MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM 5716 (0x1654)
Signaled task '{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}' (agent 'updatesmgr').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM 5716 (0x1654)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}'
(agent 'updatesmgr') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM 5716 (0x1654)
Task "{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}" (agent 'updatesmgr') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:00:03 PM 5652 (0x1614)
Successfully started task '{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}' (agent
'updatesmgr'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:00:03 PM 5652 (0x1614)
Failed to get task state for '{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}'. Error
0x87d00317 MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:03
PM 6468 (0x1944)
Adding task for client "updatesmgr": id -
"{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}", pri - 20, service window - 0, max
time for sw - 3900. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM
6468 (0x1944)
Failed to get task state for '{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}'. Error
0x87d00317 MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:09
PM 5716 (0x1654)
Adding task for client "updatesmgr": id -
"{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}", pri - 20, service window - 0, max
time for sw - 15900. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:09 PM 5716 (0x1654)
Failed to get task state for '{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}'. Error
0x87d00317 MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:09
PM 3104 (0x0C20)
Adding task for client "updatesmgr": id -
"{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}", pri - 20, service window - 0, max
time for sw - 15900. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:09 PM 3104 (0x0C20)
Failed to get task state for '{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}'. Error
0x87d00317 MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:09
PM 3204 (0x0C84)
Adding task for client "updatesmgr": id -
"{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}", pri - 20, service window - 0, max
time for sw - 15900. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:00:09 PM 3204 (0x0C84)
Removing task '{C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E}' (agent 'updatesmgr')
from the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Removed task {C0CD3A88-95D2-4EC9-B959-7ABF32ADAB7E} for client updatesmgr
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Calling to Disable Write Filter. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
EWFManager: No EWF Library found. Nothing to do... MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
FbwfManager: No FBWF Library found. Nothing to do...
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Unable to open WMI namespace, "root\standardcimv2\embedded". HRESULT =
0x8004100e MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:47
PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Setting Maintenance Mode to FALSE MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:47 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
SuspendProtection: Reboot not required MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Signaled task '{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}' (agent 'updatesmgr').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500
(0x0DAC)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}'
(agent 'updatesmgr') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Task "{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}" (agent 'updatesmgr') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:48 PM 6684 (0x1A1C)
Successfully started task '{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}' (agent
'updatesmgr'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:48 PM 6684 (0x1A1C)
Removing task '{B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD}' (agent 'updatesmgr')
from the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Removed task {B8E3E7CD-5746-44B6-8B5C-CAC5DDE884FD} for client updatesmgr
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Calling to Disable Write Filter. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
EWFManager: No EWF Library found. Nothing to do... MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
FbwfManager: No FBWF Library found. Nothing to do...
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Unable to open WMI namespace, "root\standardcimv2\embedded". HRESULT =
0x8004100e MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48
PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Setting Maintenance Mode to FALSE MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
SuspendProtection: Reboot not required MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Signaled task '{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}' (agent 'updatesmgr').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500
(0x0DAC)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}'
(agent 'updatesmgr') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM 3500 (0x0DAC)
Task "{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}" (agent 'updatesmgr') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:48 PM 5964 (0x174C)
Successfully started task '{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}' (agent
'updatesmgr'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:05:48 PM 5964 (0x174C)
Removing task '{19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E}' (agent 'updatesmgr')
from the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:46 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Removed task {19DB346C-5A91-4B22-B119-224739D7D20E} for client updatesmgr
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:46 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Calling to Disable Write Filter. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:46 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
EWFManager: No EWF Library found. Nothing to do... MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:46 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
FbwfManager: No FBWF Library found. Nothing to do...
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Unable to open WMI namespace, "root\standardcimv2\embedded". HRESULT =
0x8004100e MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:47
PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Setting Maintenance Mode to FALSE MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
SuspendProtection: Reboot not required MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Signaled task '{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}' (agent 'updatesmgr').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 9160
(0x23C8)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}'
(agent 'updatesmgr') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 9160 (0x23C8)
Task "{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}" (agent 'updatesmgr') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:47 PM 10128 (0x2790)
Successfully started task '{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}' (agent
'updatesmgr'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:47 PM 10128 (0x2790)
Removing task '{44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041}' (agent 'updatesmgr')
from the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
Removed task {44C17BF2-DF0D-4F48-AE59-819089216041} for client updatesmgr
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768
(0x2628)
Calling to Disable Write Filter. MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
EWFManager: No EWF Library found. Nothing to do... MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
FbwfManager: No FBWF Library found. Nothing to do...
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
Unable to open WMI namespace, "root\standardcimv2\embedded". HRESULT =
0x8004100e MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48
PM 9768 (0x2628)
Setting Maintenance Mode to FALSE MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
SuspendProtection: Reboot not required MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
Signaled task '{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}' (agent 'updatesmgr').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768
(0x2628)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}'
(agent 'updatesmgr') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9768 (0x2628)
Task "{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}" (agent 'updatesmgr') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:48 PM 9688 (0x25D8)
Successfully started task '{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}' (agent
'updatesmgr'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:48 PM 9688 (0x25D8)
Removing task '{B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3}' (agent 'updatesmgr')
from the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:48 PM 9136 (0x23B0)
Removed task {B232D5D0-1294-4179-9A75-1315E4782AC3} for client updatesmgr
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM 9136 (0x23B0)
Adding task for client "RebootCoord": id -
"07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd", pri - 0, service window - 0, max time
for sw - 0. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808
(0x12C8)
Signaled task '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd' (agent 'RebootCoord').
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Done scheduling task. Winning task '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd'
(agent 'RebootCoord') MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Task "07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd" (agent 'RebootCoord') is reporting
back on starting. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Successfully started task '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd' (agent
'RebootCoord'). MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
No CCM Identification blob MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:37:33 PM 6208 (0x1840)
CWriteFilterHandler::IsInServiceMode = 0 MaintenanceCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:37:33 PM 6208 (0x1840)
Removing task '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd' (agent 'RebootCoord') from
the queue. MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:37:47
PM 6284 (0x188C)
Removed task 07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd for client RebootCoord
MaintenanceCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:37:47 PM 6284 (0x188C)
RebootCoordinator.log (10.0.9.61)
User S-1-5-21-1859328528-735127382-1221738049-13307 is getting pending reboot
information... RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 9:14:16 AM
5824 (0x16C0)
Reboot Coordinator received a SERVICEWINDOWEVENT START Event
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:00 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:00:03 PM
7096 (0x1BB8)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:43 PM
5340 (0x14DC)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM
3500 (0x0DAC)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:05:48 PM
7708 (0x1E1C)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:13:49 PM
8092 (0x1F9C)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:47 PM 940
(0x03AC)
Including grace period 1200 seconds, the system restart turnaround time is 1800
seconds RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:48 PM
9768 (0x2628)
Entered ScheduleRebootImpl - requested from 'UpdatesDeploymentAgent'. set
Rebootby = 1453925870. set NotifyUI = True. set PreferredRebootWindowType = 4
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:50 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Scheduled reboot from agent UpdatesDeploymentAgent. Deadline local time:
01/27/2016 03:17:50 PM, PreferredRebootWindowType = 4
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:50 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
No CCM Identification blob RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:50
PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Not in Maintenance/Service Mode, check ServiceWindowsManager next
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
CheckRebootWindow: Service Windows found for type:4
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
ServiceWindowsManager has allowed us to Reboot RebootCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
MTC task does not exist. Creating new request. RebootCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
MTC allowed us to reboot RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Raising client SDK event for class NULL, instance NULL, actionType 4l, value
1453925871 1200 900, user NULL, session 4294967295l, level 0l, verbosity
30l RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
Notified UI grace period start with 1200 grace seconds and 900 final seconds.
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:17:51 PM 4808 (0x12C8)
MTC task for reboot '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd'. Checking if it can
run now... RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:22:51 PM 9916
(0x26BC)
MTC allowed us to reboot RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:22:51 PM 9916 (0x26BC)
System reboot request succeeded. RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:22:52 PM 9916 (0x26BC)
Reboot initiated RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:22:52 PM
9916 (0x26BC)
User S-1-5-21-1859328528-735127382-1221738049-13307 is requesting a reboot...
RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:31:47 PM 940 (0x03AC)
MTC task for reboot '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd'. Checking if it can
run now... RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:31:47 PM 940
(0x03AC)
MTC allowed us to reboot RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:31:47 PM 940 (0x03AC)
MTC task for reboot '07ba68dc-3382-412a-b123-253b8e3007fd'. Checking if it can
run now... RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:31:47 PM 940
(0x03AC)
MTC allowed us to reboot RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:31:47 PM 940 (0x03AC)
System reboot request succeeded. RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016
3:31:47 PM 940 (0x03AC)
Reboot initiated RebootCoordinator 01/27/2016 3:31:47 PM
940 (0x03AC)
User logoff notification received RebootCoordinator
01/27/2016 3:31:54 PM 8784 (0x2250)
If what I am seeing is right at around 3:00 ish the maintenance window that was
stopping updates from installing/rebooting stopped?
Setting Maintenance Mode to False at 3:00:03 PM in the
maintenancecoordinator.log
Thus allowing all sorts of installing and rebooting to occur in the next 33
minutes.
Alexis found last night that in the Maintenance window UTC was selected on a
7pm-7am window.
Which would have put us at 3pm-3am actual environment, correct (We are EST with
daylight savings time)?
She removed the UTC selection and I am watching 7 machines today and if they do
not get the value of False at 3:00 pm then I think we have it licked?
AM I thinking about this correctly?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [mssms] RE: Log for Maintenance Windows
Working with Alexis this is what we see from the query:
CollectionID ServiceWindowID Name Description
StartTime Duration RecurrenceType IsGMT
IsEnabled ServiceWindowType
SC10004B {95ECF9D4-23C2-4E50-B82A-48664D7702F0} Server
Maintenance Occurs every 1 days effective 10/05/2015 7:00 PM
2015-10-05 19:00:00.000 720 2 0
1 1
SC10004E {E3E9A1CA-979C-4C8F-A29E-F39212742B52} Workstation
Maintenance Window Occurs every 1 days effective 10/05/2015 7:00 PM
2015-10-05 18:00:00.000 720 2 1
1 1
SC10009E {9BEF9F32-4ED2-455B-8F76-6DF333197CBB} Patch Group
3 Deployment Window Occurs every 1 days effective 01/26/2016 7:00 PM
2016-01-26 19:00:00.000 600 2 0
1 4
SC1000A7 {6D8904B7-284E-4A1E-ABC0-5D42B15D6110} Live A
Maintenance Window Occurs every 1 days effective 01/26/2016 7:00 PM
2016-01-26 19:00:00.000 600 2 0
1 4
SC1000A8 {1FAF18F8-4EDD-45A1-B288-E47F191ECA2E} Live B
Maintenacne Window Occurs every 1 days effective 01/26/2016 7:00 PM
2016-01-26 19:00:00.000 600 2 0
1 1
But the log shows on SC10004B GUID??
None of the others?
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Danny Guillory (SCCM PFE)
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 4:34 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [mssms] RE: Log for Maintenance Windows
ServiceWindowManager.log
Also, if you have management studio and proper access to the CM database you
can run
select * from v_ServiceWindow
you will see what the GUID and the friendly name is, and much more information
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alexis Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:28 PM
To: '[email protected]'
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [mssms] Log for Maintenance Windows
Can anyone direct me to the log that I need to look at to verify that a
maintenance window is applying?
Alexis Smith
Information Systems
Ext 8221
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