Hmmm Why doesn't Microsoft just release that solution generator app separate to 
the VSeWSS installer if it can run on 64-bit?!?

Nice work "unbundling" the installer Ishai :)

Sezai Kömür   BEng, BSc
Senior Developer  - Vivid Group
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
http://www.moss2007.com.au/


-----Original Message-----
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Just for you:
http://www.sharepoint-tips.com/2008/09/how-to-use-microsoft-solution-generator.html


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Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 4:10 PM
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Could you point me in the direction of the install for Solution Generator for 
64-bit then? As I was under the impression it is part of the VSeWSS 
installation which basically won't run on 64bit machine.

Cheers,
Jeremy Thake
Readify | Senior Consultant

Perth | WA 6005 | Australia
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Ok - still not a reason to use 64bit. The solution generator can work on 64bit 
machines. Just don't use the extensions.

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I've just found it easier building the list and adding the content types, 
views, workflows and general configuration (versioning etc.) and then reverse 
engineering it usimg the Solution Generator. Found the schema.xml code very 
complexed (especially the <Views> section).

Cheers,
Jeremy Thake
Readify | Senior Consultant

Perth | WA 6005 | Australia
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www.made4the.net
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Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 1:57 PM
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are you talking about the solution generator (which comes with the VseWSS, but 
is not part of the extensions) or are you talking about creating a list 
definition project?

For a list definition project, I much prefer to start with a copy of the 
"Custom List" folder, and import it into a WSPBuilder project. You can even 
easily make a template out of that in visual studio.

-----Original Message-----
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Out of interest Isahi, what method do you use to generate the schema.xml and 
newform.aspx etc.? The open source tools I've used just didn't seem to gererate 
working files that would deploy properly (e.g. New button didn't work etc.).

Cheers,
Jeremy Thake
Readify | Senior Consultant

Perth | WA 6005 | Australia
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www.made4the.net
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I'd argue that you really shouldn't make the decision based on the VSeWSS 
support. Really, VSeWSS in its current version just plain sucks. I don't 
recommend using it. The next version may improve, and those improvements may 
well include support for 64bit, but for now my recommendation is not to use the 
extensions. Use WSPBuilder or STSDEV or other community tools.
Worst case - install a 32bit vpc for the things you cant do without in VSeWSS 
(I can't imagine what those will be though).


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Yeah, it's really not worth losing the functionality in VSeWSS, especially for 
generating the List Template definitions (and schemas) with Solution Generator! 
Those things are a pain to cut by hand!


Cheers,
Jeremy Thake
Readify | Senior Consultant

Perth | WA 6005 | Australia
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www.made4the.net
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Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:35 AM
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Thanks Sezai - good to know that it's not a deal-breaker.

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Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:08 AM
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http://www.sharepointblogs.com/johnwpowell/archive/2007/07/19/64-bit-gotchas.aspx

>> I'm concerned about support for developer tools in a 64-bit environment

I've worked on projects where all our DEV environments are 32-bit but the 
production environment is 64-bit and this has caused no issues. You can develop 
the same Features+Solutions in a 32-bit environment and they should deploy fine 
to a 64-bit environment. I've also backed up sites from 32-bit farms and 
restored to 64-bit farms with no problems at all.
Sezai Kömür   BEng, BSc
Senior Developer  - Vivid Group
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
http://www.moss2007.com.au/

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David
Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:00 AM
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I'm looking for some advice on MOSS 2007 server environments and how it might 
effect development.

The Microsoft Best Practices for SharePoint Server 
(http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/library/cc850694.aspx) recommend a 64-bit 
architecture throughout, which is fine.  I'm concerned about support for 
developer tools in a 64-bit environment.  AFAIK, VSeWSS still doesn't work on a 
64-bit O/S.  Are there any other gotchas that I should be aware of?

Thanks,
David.

David Crabbe
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Fujitsu Australia Ltd
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