Hi Cameron:

On 07/29/2012 03:25 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Thanks Micha,
I've had a quick first pass over the virtualization_quickstart and vmdk_quickstart.
The vmdk quickstart looks good. I'll have a few relatively minor comments to make when I do a full review (in ~ 24 hours).

What I suggest is:
* We should only have one quickstart for VMs.
* So virtualization quickstart and vmdk quickstart should be combined into one.
* And we should deprecate the vitualbox quickstart.
* Actually, I think we should all 3 quickstarts should be renamed virtualbox quickstart, so that we have some history consistency, and it will be easier to track what has/has not been translated over versions of osgeolive.


Alex mentioned adding a page describing Parallels, and Hamish wanted another showing how to build a VM on Linux using libvirt. So I've left it with the one *short* intro document, and the link at the bottom to the details. It looks cleaner and more concise this way. And what's more, we can decide whether or not to add detailed pages for other VM platforms in the future. I don't see the problem with additional, separate pages? Those interested will look deeper. And casual users will make do with the brief overview.

If it still looks too split up, let me know and I'll merge the two pages into one.

Regards,
Micha 


On 28/07/12 19:48, Micha Silver wrote:
On 07/28/2012 01:11 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
Micha,
Are you still good for your offer to write a VM Howto?
We were discussing this in our daily IRC meeting and agreed that it would be good to have one.


I'll give it a shot over this weekend.
Your guidelines seem fine. As I mentioned, I'll put together a VM overview, covering only the "why" and machine requirements. Then it will have links to:

 *   your current page
 * setting up a virtualbox VM straight from the *.vmdk version of the
   Live DVD.
 * the VM wiki page

That should be an improvement.


Thanks,

Micha


What I suggest is:
1. Try to ensure that the doc is concise, so there is less to translate. (The current VM that I wrote is too long).
2. Describe how to set up a VM for only one VM. Our quickstarts should be quick, (and easy to maintain), and shouldn't confuse users by asking them to decide on which VM to use.
3. I'm open to suggestions re which VM you think you should write to. I'd guess you would select the easiest, or most widely used Open Source VM, but this will probably be your call.
4. Finish with a link to an OSGeo-Live-VM wiki page. The wiki page can include much more detail, including how to install multiple versions of VMs.

Lastly, I'm being really bad by hoping to get some docs within a day or 2 - which will be required if we are to give translators enough time to translate it. (I'm also hoping to review it for you).

I've created an issue to track this here:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/966

On 25/07/12 12:28, Hamish wrote:
Cameron wrote:
  I suggest that we should:
  1. Describe one way to create a VM inside OSGeo docs
  2. Describe one way to create an ISO inside OSGeo docs

  Point to wiki pages where we can describe multiple ways for
  creating ISO/VMs.
or perhaps just describe what a VM is, how it works, and what you need
to run one on the disc, + the link to the rich mediawiki howtos pages.
Similar for booting off persistent USB sticks which may be a new concept
to some conference goers.


2c,
Hamish








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Micha Silver
GIS Consultant, Arava Development Co.
http://www.surfaces.co.il

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