On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:54:22 -0400, you wrote: >Drader.. this list is a migration of the original sailnet liveaboard list.. >I joined that list in 2002.. how long have you been on this list in its >various incarnations? > This list is the old live-aboard list that was formerly hosted at the University of Toronto. (crux.astro.utoronto.ca) Stephen M was the list owner. I think I started on that old live-aboard list back in the late 1990s. I have posts on my computer dating back to 1997 and there are many people here who have been here longer than I.
I didn't even know there WAS a sailnet liveaboard list and have never been on that. If the sailnet people joined us, that is news to me. >On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We all know what an expert on all things Florida you are..... as you have >> told us so, many times. >> >> I don't think anyone, including Rosalie, said you didn't know what you are >> talking about. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, even if they >> disagree with yours..... in fact before your relatively recent arrival on >> this list..... it was encouraged & appreciated. >> >> Let's try not to take things so personally or personally attack people.... >> ok? >> >> Donna >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* 'bella <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:03 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] Advice regarding Florida >> >> Condisering I grew up there Rosalie.. spent about 30 yrs in central fla I >> think I >> would qualify to know the weather in that neck of the wood... are you >> implying >> that I don't know what I am saying... because it sure comes across that >> way.. >> >> I tell people we have winter two weeks a yr, one day at a time.. >> front comes thru... temp drops to whatever.. say the twenties for 3 hours.. >> then steadily >> climbes upward to mid 50's... next day it is mid 40's at night to upper >> 50's >> next mid 50's night to upper 600's then another front comes thru.. of >> course then you have those >> few weeks where the cold fronts march south, hit the straits of florida, >> turn around and come back >> north and slam into a cold front over central florida and bingo...TORNADOS >> in january.. >> I waas home in 2006 and we had that scenario christmas day.. by mid >> february it is 80 degrees >> in miami and the boat show is in full swing.. end of february the azaleas >> are blooming like made >> in Tampa/St Pete and we have low 70's days.. NO humidity.. that comes about >> mid may.. one >> night you go to sleep and the air feels like cool linen on your skin wake >> up to the luxurious feel >> of velvet.. the humidity as returned and gets worse and worse until late >> Sept.. mid October >> about the time of the full moon is the first cold snap.. humidity leaves >> and one has those wonderful >> indian summer days of no humidity and sunny 70 degree days... >> Weather that is going on in New Orleans.. usually makes the St Pete area >> about 48 hours laters. >> Of course all one really needs to do is watch the sky.. mares tails and the >> front is 24 to 48 hours out.. >> >> I wouild strongly suggest one should not be caught offshore in late >> December to late february during the passing of >> a cold front.. the ability to jump behind in and take advantage of the wind >> though, is a great thing.. it will push you southward >> in a hurry, a bit lumpy but the sailing is awesome.. Generally the average >> is 2 to 4 days between fronts.. >> NOAA will tell you a front is coming thru... what they don't say is that >> during that particular time of the year getting caught offshore is not >> nice.. good sailing weather all the time returns in early may.. to early >> december. >> >> one very important word... in the Chessie when they say 'small craft >> warnings' it simply means there is wind on the bay.. when they say 'gale >> force'.. just more wind... IN the Atlantic it means something a bit more >> sinister.. I would evaluate your trip plans if you get either.. >> >> In the keys the weather and water wave and all that are given as 'inside >> the reef' and outside the reef. meaning the straights of fla.. >> heed the words.. IF you can go down the Hawk Channel it is your preferred >> way to get to key west.. >> the Fleming Key mooring field is limited to boats 35 feet and under as I >> recall.. and its not all that deep.. >> you can get a 6 foot draw boat on the west side of fleming key to anchor.. >> it is not good but you can.. I would set two anchors and dive on them to >> make double sure they are set.. watch out for the idiots that foul anchors.. >> we nearly lost the C400 over someone dropping thier hook over our line and >> then cutting our anchor line thinking he was cutting his.. we got back just >> in time to see her within 10 feet of the rockes there.. then I had to jump >> off a tow boat onto the concrete of fleming key wander thru the woods >> wihtout getting caught by the shore patrol to get to the dingy.. never know >> how the hel I pulled a 15 hour outboard back onboard before it almsot fell >> off and keep the dink from being punctured.. but we did.. and got her safe >> back to the boat.. effing tourists... >> >> fla is great.. we took the C400 with a 6 foot draft most places in central >> and sw fla.. am a btdt that person on that account those are my home >> cruising grounds.. >> pm me off list if I can be of any help.. >> 'bella >> aboard .. >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Rosalie <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Yes I think that would be the case too. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >From: [email protected] >>> >Sent: Apr 14, 2009 5:09 PM >>> >To: [email protected] >>> >Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Advice regarding Florida >>> > >>> >6.5' draft would make SW Fla tough I think? >>> > >>> >----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: 'bella >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 4:51 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Advice regarding Florida >>> > >>> > >>> > central florida only gets into the 20's for a few hours at a time... >>> during a 1-2 month window.. you get into the 20's for what weeks on end? >>> (smiles).... >>> > Why not consider SW Florida. 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