----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Barfett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Wintering aboard


> Arild,
>
> 68 degree's would be optimal for this type of system. Don't know about you
> but I would ensure a comfortable temperature in the head! The Airhead does
> take air from the inside and pushes it out via a low volume fan which 
> would
> allow room temperature air to move over the composting compartment.

REPLY
68 F  now that might become a problem  living aboard in winter.
Having worked in boat building and more recently in design I doubt  most 
normal production boats are insulated  sufficiently  to maintain that kind 
of interior temp full time.  Some of the cored hulls  have  the equivalent 
of  R 5  insulation value.  A very few  custom builds  have R value of 8. 
this issue came up  for a 58  footer design I was involved with. I had to 
determine how much air conditioning  was required so I had to determnien the 
insulation value of the hull and superstructure.

Supplemental insulation is definitely a must.  R 12 is a minimum in central 
upstate NY.  Having  lived across Lake Ontario from that region  I do have 
some personal experience  to fall back on.  <VBG>

Sounds like it might be necessary  to  install a ceramic cube heater  in the 
head to ensure adequate temp for  composting to  continue.
That in turn brings up  the issue of  security of power supply.   When I 
lived aboard;  marinas in winter  got last priority  based on the premise 
that marinas was a summer  occupancy issue.   Oh sure.
So when winter storms  take out the utility power, it  may take a day  to 
restore  power to an isolated marina  under worst case condition.  Where I 
live now  this kind of delay could be three days.  A day or so to plow out 
the roads, and  tree clearing to occur before the hydro crews can  get out 
to repair the downed power lines.   Most people hereabouts rely on  small to 
medium  sized generators  for back up.  But that's another story.

All the diesel fired furnaces I have worked on  require  electricity  for 
fans pumps and what have you.  And you need light  during the periods of 
darkness.   So any winterization has to  include an adequate heat and power 
system.





.
>
> I once saw 40 below zero in Colorado and had 1/4" of ice on the inside
> windows of the car as I was driving to town. Soon moved to Texas, 
> something
> about living or surviving.....
> Jeff

REPLY
Whatever you do don't come up here in winter.  <VBG> That  kind of condition 
is the norm  here.   Snow flies  beginning of November and doesn't leave 
until first week in May.  I was hunting for fire wood in the high country 
behind the house first week in June and got stopped by snow drifts to deep 
to drive through or over.

Arild


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