to add to that hindsight there is a demotivational poster I have. It shows this stunning woman laying on the beach in an almost nonexistant bikini... the caption says, "no matter how beautiful she is, you know that someone, somewhere is tired of her crap" fair winds..
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Bob Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Six years into building Cross 33' tri. She got it in the divorce and sold > it for less than material cost. Sat in a parking lot for many years before > falling over after which I'm told it became a bonfire. With the hindsight of > 30+ yrs it was a small price to pay. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *'bella > *Sent:* Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:10 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Liveaboard] Legal question - Abandoned Vessel > > the ex wife geting the boat and selling it to piss you off > or > abandoning your boat? <cheesy grins> > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Bob Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Man is that ever a familiar story! Been there, done that. >> >> Bob >> PDQ 36 >> Peace >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sam Densler >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:55 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Legal question - Abandoned Vessel >> >> Would love to but after all of the work that the PO put into her after he >> got the wreckage, I would love it even more if he could get her back. >> Wife got the boat in the divorce and sold it from under him, karma says >> he >> should get it back :-) >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> 'bella wrote: >> > Aw heck, I would just go get the boat and give it back to you. For >> > the cost of the ticket of course. >> > If you need a partner in crime let me know,I am up for a bit of 'boat >> > moving'.. >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Sam Densler <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Update... >> > >> > Turns out the vessel was never registered by the new (2 years ago) >> owner >> > and title has never been transfered. So the seller who is being >> > ticketed for the lack of registration and technically still holds >> title, >> > is going to see if he can get possession back. He has attempted to >> > contact the current "owner" and the state, we will see what happens. >> > >> > Sam >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Sam Densler <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> Here is the background... >> > >> >> > >> In 2004, Hurricanes Frances and Jeanne, Gina and I lost our >> beloved >> > >> Endeavour 37 on which I lived aboard for nearly 5 years. Nearly >> > 2 years >> > >> later, a wonderful guy bought the wreck at auction and fixed her >> > up to >> > >> probably 80% of her pre-hurricane grandeur. In fact, he invited >> > me to >> > >> sail her back to his home port on her maiden voyage when she was >> > ready >> > >> to go. Unfortunately, personal and medical issues forced him to >> > put her >> > >> up for sale and in short order, she was sold to a new owner >> > somewhere up >> > >> north. At that point, I lost contact with owners and the >> > vessel. Last >> > >> year, one of our very own list members emailed me that she was >> > spotted >> > >> at anchor just outside the very marina where I had helped >> > deliver her. >> > >> Looked like she had been sitting there for a long time. Turns >> > out, the >> > >> new owner didn't want to pay marina fees so he had her anchored >> > in open >> > >> water just outside the marina and she had been there since, more >> > than a >> > >> year. Now, another year later, she still sits there, in a >> > serious state >> > >> of disrepair. Oddly enough, the guy that bought the vessel from >> > auction >> > >> (not the current owner) received a citation for an unregistered >> > vessel >> > >> anchored in FL waters. We believe she has never actually been >> > >> registered by the new owner. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> So here is the question... >> > >> >> > >> At what point is the vessel considered abandoned? What would be >> > >> involved in taking back possession of the vessel? Is it as >> > simple as >> > >> some have told us that we can just take possession and register >> > her as >> > >> ours since she was abandoned? Does the current "owner" have any >> > rights >> > >> to her since she has not been registered and is obviously not in >> > >> compliance with current Florida law? >> > >> >> > >> We would love to have her back to fix up. Any clarification on >> the >> > >> legal aspects would be greatly appreciated. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Sam and Gina >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> **************************** >> > >> >> > >> Sam Densler >> > >> mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> http://www.islandfx.com/lady >> > >> >> > >> S/V Lady of the Lake >> > >> PDQ 36, Hull #15 >> > >> Melbourne, FL >> > >> >> > >> S/V Stories She Could Tell >> > >> Endeavour 37, Hull #454 >> > >> Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004 >> > >> Reborn and sailing again in 2007 >> > >> >> > >> **************************** >> > >> >> > >> "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, >> > >> you do it for the stories you can tell." >> > >> >> > >> Jimmy Buffett >> > >> "Stories We Could Tell" >> > >> A1A >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Liveaboard mailing list >> > >> [email protected] <mailto: >> [email protected]> >> > >> To adjust your membership settings over the web >> > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> > >> To subscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> >> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> > [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> The archives are at >> > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> > >> >> > >> To search the archives >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> >> > >> The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >> > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > **************************** >> > >> > Sam Densler >> > mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://www.islandfx.com/lady >> > >> > S/V Lady of the Lake >> > PDQ 36, Hull #15 >> > Melbourne, FL >> > >> > S/V Stories She Could Tell >> > Endeavour 37, Hull #454 >> > Destroyed by Hurricane Frances 2004 >> > Reborn and sailing again in 2007 >> > >> > **************************** >> > >> > "If you ever wonder why you ride the carousel, >> > you do it for the stories you can tell." >> > >> > Jimmy Buffett >> > "Stories We Could Tell" >> > A1A >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Liveaboard mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > To adjust your membership settings over the web >> > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/mailman/listinfo/liveaboard >> > To subscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > The archives are at >> > http://www.liveaboardnow.org/pipermail/liveaboard/ >> > >> > To search the archives >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > >> > The Mailman Users Guide can be found here >> > http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-member/index.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual >> > addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is >> > confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons >> > with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational religious >> > beliefs. 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