I will pass along the offer :-) 'bella wrote: > Well legally it is in his name.. it is his vessel... she sold it... I > agree, she probably sold it for pennies on the dollar... he is paying > for the ticket... tell him to get in touch... my pirate side will be > happy to go get the boat and move it where he wants.. (evil grins). > She is not around to protest, so go for it.. > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Densler, Vernon R (IT Solutions) > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Then he should get it back. She probably sold it for almost nothing > and the > person didn't care about it. He should move it to another marina if > he gets > it back. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Sam Densler > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:55 AM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Liveaboard] Legal question - Abandoned Vessel > > Would love to but after all of the work that the PO put into her after > he got the wreckage, I would love it even more if he could get her back. > Wife got the boat in the divorce and sold it from under him, karma > says he should get it back :-) > > Sam > > > > 'bella wrote: > > Aw heck, I would just go get the boat and give it back to you. > For the > > cost of the ticket of course. > > If you need a partner in crime let me know,I am up for a bit of > 'boat > > moving'.. > > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Sam Densler <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > Update... > > > > Turns out the vessel was never registered by the new (2 years > ago) > owner > > and title has never been transfered. So the seller who is being > > ticketed for the lack of registration and technically still holds > title, > > is going to see if he can get possession back. He has > attempted to > > contact the current "owner" and the state, we will see what > happens. > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Sam Densler > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > >> Here is the background... > > >> > > >> In 2004, Hurricanes Frances and Jeanne, Gina and I lost our > beloved > > >> Endeavour 37 on which I lived aboard for nearly 5 years. > Nearly > > 2 years > > >> later, a wonderful guy bought the wreck at auction and > fixed her > > up to > > >> probably 80% of her pre-hurricane grandeur. In fact, he > invited > > me to > > >> sail her back to his home port on her maiden voyage when > she was > > ready > > >> to go. Unfortunately, personal and medical issues forced > him to > > put her > > >> up for sale and in short order, she was sold to a new owner > > somewhere up > > >> north. At that point, I lost contact with owners and the > > vessel. Last > > >> year, one of our very own list members emailed me that > she was > > spotted > > >> at anchor just outside the very marina where I had helped > > deliver her. > > >> Looked like she had been sitting there for a long time. > Turns > > out, the > > >> new owner didn't want to pay marina fees so he had her > anchored > > in open > > >> water just outside the marina and she had been there > since, more > > than a > > >> year. Now, another year later, she still sits there, in a > > serious state > > >> of disrepair. Oddly enough, the guy that bought the > vessel from > > auction > > >> (not the current owner) received a citation for an > unregistered > > vessel > > >> anchored in FL waters. We believe she has never actually > been > > >> registered by the new owner. > > >> > > >> > > >> So here is the question... > > >> > > >> At what point is the vessel considered abandoned? What > would be > > >> involved in taking back possession of the vessel? Is it as > > simple as > > >> some have told us that we can just take possession and > register > > her as > > >> ours since she was abandoned? Does the current "owner" > have any > > rights > > >> to her since she has not been registered and is obviously > not in > > >> compliance with current Florida law? > > >> > > >> We would love to have her back to fix up. 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