Thanks for the reply, Casey,
The particular issue I have with squeak is it's issue of accessing the
Internet securely - school IT departments have an issue - they don't
know who/what/ squeak is and going through the red tape is a potential
problem. And the web-browser plugin was always a bit of an issue as
well. I don't know if anyone is working on the plugin for web
browsers... but I want to deploy for easy inclusion in a browser... or
at the very least connect to the net.
I don't usually cross-post, but I've included this msg on the Squeak-dev
ML since you advocate the use of etoys in a production environment
(which I admit I haven't actually defined what "production" means)
thanks again,
brad
On 3/21/2013 3:08 AM, Casey Ransberger wrote:
Etoys is in real use in real schools all over the place. I use it as a
replacement for HyperCard at times myself. If you can be more specific
about what's making you nervous about Etoys, that might help folks
steer you in the right direction. If you pull up the preferences
browser via the halo on the Etoys desktop, search for etoyfriendly,
and disable it, you'll unlock the underlying Smalltalk programming
environment (Squeak.) Squeak is *definitely* production (or maybe
"product") worthy.
Another system which is a bit easier to learn, but generally less
powerful, is Scratch.
Lively Kernel is a research system, so it's less likely to be "product
like" than those two if that's what you're looking for.
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Brad Fuller <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,
New to the list. Have several questions that Dan suggested you
would have great insight.
I'm researching better ways to help kids experientially learn (K-8
primarily but up to college is planned). I have not yet found a
platform or system better than etoys. But, etoys is not quite a
production platform. And, I would like platform/system to be
accessible everywhere. I've also contemplated deploying Django and
writing the apps in Python.
My questions: are there better alternatives? Could you offer
avenues for further research into a production system? Would the
lively-kernel be a good alternative? Or will it continue to be a
prototyping system? Could I start a demo on lively-kernel and
expect I could port it to a production environment (that is if
lively-kernel or facsimile is planned for production.)
Thanks much!
brad
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