> On Mar 13, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Davide Italiano via lldb-commits 
> <lldb-commits@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Frédéric Riss via lldb-commits
> <lldb-commits@lists.llvm.org <mailto:lldb-commits@lists.llvm.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Davide Italiano via lldb-commits 
>>> <lldb-commits@lists.llvm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Author: davide
>>> Date: Mon Mar 12 18:40:00 2018
>>> New Revision: 327356
>>> 
>>> URL: http://llvm.org/viewvc/llvm-project?rev=327356&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> [ExpressionParser] Fix crash when evaluating invalid expresssions.
>>> 
>>> Typical example, illformed comparisons (operator== where LHS and
>>> RHS are not compatible). If a symbol matched `operator==` in any
>>> of the object files lldb inserted a generic function declaration
>>> in the ASTContext on which Sema operates. Maintaining the AST
>>> context invariants is fairly tricky and sometimes resulted in
>>> crashes inside clang (or assertions hit).
>>> 
>>> The real reason why this feature exists in the first place is
>>> that of allowing users to do something like:
>>> (lldb) call printf("patatino")
>>> 
>>> even if the debug informations for printf() is not available.
>>> Eventually, we might reconsider this feature in its
>>> entirety, but for now we can't remove it as it would break
>>> a bunch of users. Instead, try to limit it to non-C++ symbols,
>>> where getting the invariants right is hopefully easier.
>>> 
>>> Now you can't do in lldb anymore
>>> (lldb) call _Zsomethingsomething(1,2,3)
>>> 
>>> but that doesn't seem to be such a big loss.
>> 
>> I’m somewhat surprised by this. My understanding of the crash you were 
>> investigating is that Clang crashed because we injected a Decl looking like 
>> this: “void operator==(…)” after finding the operator== symbol somewhere. I 
>> think injecting bogus C++ Decls makes no sense and it cannot really work 
>> anyway.
>> 
>> On the other hand, I see no harm in injecting “_Zsomethingsomething(…)” as a 
>> C Decl. This can be useful, and people should be able to call raw symbols in 
>> their binaries. Is there no way to keep the later while preventing the 
>> creation of broken C++ decls?
>> 
> 
> Thank you all for your feedback. I'll reply with a single mail to everybody.
> 
> C decls can be inserted. In fact, this works, even after my changes:
> 
> (lldb) call printf("patatino")
> (int) $0 = 8

That is because we define a function prototype for printf. So please try 
another function. You always have to cast the result of a function call to a 
symbol. In this case, since you didn't get a warning, you can know that you 
didn't use a symbol...

> 
> I always thought identifiers beginning with underscore where illegal in C.
> Here's what the standard says:
> 
> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1570.pdf 
> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1570.pdf>
> 
> Section 7.1.3
> "All identifiers that begin with an underscore and either an uppercase
> letter or another underscore are always reserved for any use."

And yet there are many symbols that violate this. Just because someone says it 
is so, doesn't mean it is and also if there is no enforcement, then the rule 
doesn't mean much.

> 
> They're not quite illegal, but they're reserved, so I'm unsure how
> frequent having symbols starting with `_Z` is popular.

It is a legal C identifier, so we need to be able to call it.

> 
> Maybe lldb has a better way of detecting whether this is a C or a C++ program?

Yes with debug info, no if we only have symbol table.

> 
> There are several constraints:
> 
> 1) The object from which we're loading symbols has no debug info, so
> we can't look at the CU and just say whether it's C or C++ or
> Objective-C.
> 2) The expression parser always evaluates expressions in a C++ context
> (to the best of my understanding)
> 3) You can always mix-and-match C/C++ object files as they're just
> Mach-O or ELF objects at that point (not recommended, but I've seen
> people doing it).
> 
> Do you have any thoughts on how this should be achieved?

What are you trying to achieve?

> 
> Best,
> 
> --
> Davide
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