My point was: you should be able to adjust the PITCH of your
AudioFileProcessor plugin to -9.302 cents and that will make the
sample play at the right speed (and length)  however, it will be
detuned slightly

-Paul

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Louigi Verona <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Paul!
>
> Then this is a plugin thing - it does not have length parameter - only pitch
> parameters.
> I guess this is why it is called Pitch Shifter.
>
> Guys, is there any LADSPA plugin that can do time stretching? I did not find
> any.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Paul Giblock <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Rubberband is pretty good, we are planning on using it in future
>> versions of LMMS to support tempo/pitch independent changes to
>> sample-tracks.
>> Since we will be using it on sample-tracks, the processing can be
>> precalculated and we can run the conversion with high quality
>> settings.
>>
>> 1) Are you doing something wrong? Maybe.  I'm confused why you are
>> adjusting cents.  Cents is a measure of pitch.  The purpose of a tool
>> like rubberband is to adjust duration and pitch independently.  This
>> is probably why you notice the pitch changing without a noticeable
>> change in length. I would think you want to adjust something like
>> "tempo", "duration", "stretch"... something along those lines. I never
>> used Rubberband as an FX before, so I couldn't say for sure.
>> 2) How many cents is 1 bpm? This depends on the actual tempo. 1 cent =
>> 1/100th of a semitone or 1/1200 of an octave.  To fit something
>> recorded at 130bpm into 129bpm with a standard sampler (where lowering
>> the pitch causes the length to increase)  you would need:
>>
>> 130 to 129 bpm will require an increase in length of 1/129   (0.7752%)
>>
>> Therefore, the octave will need to drop by 1/129 of an octave  (9.302
>> cents)
>>
>> This may or may not be right, it is 3:00AM and I am just doing this in my
>> head.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Louigi Verona <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hey guys!
>> > I am trying to stretch a loop to use in a song. I tried using various
>> > pitch
>> > shifting ladspa plugins, like rubberband and AM pitchshifter, but no
>> > matter
>> > how much or how so small I change the loop, it will not be flawless. The
>> > original tempo of the loop is 130, the tempo of the song is 129. If I
>> > set
>> > the tempo of the song to 130, the loop is perfect.
>> > Using rubberband I tried adjusting cents, since a semitone is too much
>> > down,
>> > but going even 0.5 cents down instantly produces very noticable
>> > artifacts
>> > and there is always a noticable artifact in the end of the loop. I mean
>> > - I
>> > hear the change in the pitch, but I do not hear the change in the length
>> > of
>> > the loop.
>> >
>> > I tried doing auto stretching in QTractor, thinking I just cannot find
>> > the
>> > correct value, but in QTractor the result is the same - there is a
>> > noticable
>> > gap(artifact) in the end which makes the loop not perfect.
>> >
>> > Also, as soon as rubberband plugin is activated - the loop goes out of
>> > sync
>> > with the rest of the song even if I make no changes - there appears a
>> > slight
>> > pause before the loops starts to play. No such effect with AM
>> > pitchshifter.
>> >
>> > Eventually, what I did was change the pitch of the loop 15 cents down by
>> > means of the Pitch knob in the lmms instrument window. It worked,
>> > although
>> > did tune it down a bit, but hardly noticable. Of course, I would prefer
>> > to
>> > stretch a sample without shifting its pitch.
>> >
>> > So I have two questions.
>> >
>> > 1. Am I doing something wrong with Rubberband or is it really not that
>> > top
>> > notch?
>> > 2. How much cents is 1 bpm?
>> >
>> > Louigi.
>> >
>> > ps: tried elastique stretching of the same sample in FL Studio. Although
>> > nice result I did hear some slight artifacts.
>> >
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