I am less optimistic than you. In my experience, once cast, many committers albeit not all, would first drink lethal poison before reverting their -1 vote. Whatever the reasons given today, those who cast -1 votes will continue to do so under various pretexts, which may be justified, unjustified, honest, disguised or otherwise. In short, it is practically impossible for a rejected proposal to get subsequently accepted. In any case, I won't be presenting a proposal. Now if a heroic soul wishes to try, I wish them all the luck in the world.

At 19:03 5/4/2005, Mark Womack wrote:
Ceki,

Are you saying that there is no longer any interest to support slf4j in
log4j?  I don't speak for you, but I know I am still interested in it.  It
sounds like others are as well.  Depending on the timeframes for slf4j and
the (currently numbered) v1.3 version of log4j, releasing something on the
1.2.X code base can still make a lot of sense.  The recall of the 1.2.10
version has never been about WHETHER to do a slf4j version.  It has been
about WHEN to do it.  There are some questions on HOW, but those can be
hashed out.  Anyway, the repository will be set up for whatever is decided.
It is up to people to choose to do it.

v1.2.10 was recalled, so removing the binaries is appropriate.  I'd prefer
that folks not be able to get their hands on it.  Again, if we want to
release an appropriately marked "experimental" version (I don't know what
phrase you want to use here), we can.  All it takes is a vote.

-Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceki G�lc� [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:48 AM
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> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Tag the CVS for 1.2.10 and revert the slf4j related
> changes on 1.2 branch
>
> At 16:48 5/4/2005, Jacob Kjome wrote:
>
> >I like Mark's proposal.  +1.
>
> Thanks Mark, Jake. I appreciate the significance of the gesture but
> probably no one will follow through with the idea, although I might be
> wrong. Curt has already removed the log4j-1.2.10 binary files from the
> server. I am not sure he asked or informed anyone but that's a different
> mater.
>
> >Jake
>
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