In case of a tie...
Hm, how do we get the most publicity out of a tie... (cause that's the goal of 
all this)
Maybe ask a prominent personality?
Ask CERN or NASA to flip a coin for us?
Have another contest round?

Anything that makes most sense from a marketing perspective, I guess. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013/05/09, at 11:28, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And if there is a tie? The PMC votes?
> 
> Gary
> 
> On May 8, 2013, at 22:21, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Okay, I guess we could filter out the turd icons before we ask people to 
>> choose...
>> 
>> But after that we should accept their decision, or we might as well not ask 
>> in the first place.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013/05/09, at 11:06, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hah, that's funny, because that chaos is exactly why I DO think there 
>>> should be a veto power. :-P
>>> 
>>> Nick
>>> 
>>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Remko Popma wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I should clarify that this TED talk is the reason I don't like the idea of 
>>>> a veto. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013/05/09, at 10:00, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> One of the reddit founders did an interesting (and short) TED talk on 
>>>>> this. Search for "ted talk reddit mister splashy pants". 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013/05/09, at 9:11, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Agreed. Collect votes from as many sources as possible. I DO think the 
>>>>>> PMC and/or key devs should be able to veto, however ... just in case.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can mail to the dev and user list (and pmc too), and use social 
>>>>>>> media. We can also update the log4j 2 beta web site with the 
>>>>>>> announcement. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 19:34, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Christian,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That is a great idea!
>>>>>>>> Not just to get a nice new logo, but also (more important imho) to 
>>>>>>>> attract attention to the new 2.0 version. Marketing yay!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> How do you want to do this?
>>>>>>>> Do we pick from the submissions, or do we have a second round where 
>>>>>>>> people vote for their favorite?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would like the second one. Not that I don't have great taste (haha - 
>>>>>>>> that's my wife laughing, I was serious), but it is a chance to get 
>>>>>>>> even more people involved and thus attract even more attention.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Remko
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:10 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Logo contest?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For some reason I picture two guys with their arms outstretched 
>>>>>>>> standing on a spinning log in a body of water.... ;-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hopefully, most of you will understand that.  Probably not - In the 
>>>>>>>> northwest U.S. they have lumberjack contests where the guy who can 
>>>>>>>> stay on the log longest wins.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> > I am sorry to say that I never liked the log4j logo. I always found 
>>>>>>>> > it
>>>>>>>> > 100% ugly.
>>>>>>>> > Recently somebody else said, he doesn't know what a green cup has to
>>>>>>>> > do with logging. I agree with him.
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Now the log4j 1.x logo is a green cup. No doubt about it.
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > But log4j 2.x is different. In my opinion we should get the word out
>>>>>>>> > and have some kind of logo contest. I am willing to assist and  lead,
>>>>>>>> > once the current discussion on other places calm down.
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > My hope is, we would release the first stable version of log4j 2.x
>>>>>>>> > with a new logo. We are a fresh team, we have a new atmosphere and
>>>>>>>> > log4j 2.x is somewhat great. I believe we simply need a logo which
>>>>>>>> > expresses all that.
>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>> > Any thoughts around this?
>>>>>>>> > 
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