OK, done editing for now.

Gary


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Cool thanks.
>
> I included the changes discussed with Nick and added it to Jira:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
>
> If you can't edit it (you should) let me know
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you write up the text with the changes discussed, I'll proof read the
> > whole thing. It seems we need the text in the JIRA first.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Nick Williams
> > <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> That's much better, as in being clear. As for whether we should allow
> >> community votes, I have mixed feelings, so I'm going to abstain from
> >> commenting.
> >>
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >>
> >> > Nick thanks for the mispelling corrections.
> >> >
> >> > Date: ups you are right. I was living in June. Lets extend it further
> >> > 1 month from the date we agreed to this
> >> >
> >> > What about this:
> >> >
> >> >> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
> >> >>
> >> >> Everybody is invited to vote. The votes of Apache Logging Committers
> >> >> are binding.
> >> >>
> >> >> If there are more than 10 Logos submitted there will be two rounds.
> >> >> In the first round the 10 logos with the most +1 are entering round
> >> >> two.
> >> >> In the second round the logo with the most +1 will win the contest.
> >> >
> >> > Is that better?
> >> >
> >> > Not sure if we should allow community votes in this case or not.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers
> >> > Christian
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nick Williams
> >> > <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> >> >> A few corrections/suggestions inline.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hello,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> here is a draft based on my ideas and based on the feedback i read
> >> >>> from Gary and others.
> >> >>> Please feel free to correct / modify / discuss it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I already created an Jira issue, because i think we all agreed to
> take
> >> >>> Jira for submissions. The plan is to use the text on the website,
> blog
> >> >>> and jira issue. We also might be able to get some help from Sally
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please note, I changed the final date to 01.08. becuase the previous
> >> >>> date is already history :-|
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers
> >> >>> Christian
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Log4j 2.0 is looking for a new logo
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Log4j 2 is very different to Log4j 1. Log4j 2 is more reliable
> >> >>> and fast then its predecessor and even comparable frameworks.
> >> >>> The team has grown after years of stagnation and there is
> >> >>> a lot of activity on our lists. We are already seeing the
> >> >>> first signs for a stable release on the horizon.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> After 12 years it is not only time to change the version
> >> >>> number but also time to refresh the Log4j logo.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> With our new logo we want to show the java community
> >> >>
> >> >> "Java," not "java."
> >> >>
> >> >>> that Log4j is back.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We would like to open participation to the community
> >> >>> to create this new logo.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HOW TO PARTICIPATE
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Attach your entries to the Jira:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Each person can submit more than one logo.
> >> >>> Submissions will be accepted until August 01, 2013.
> >> >>
> >> >> Originally we gave them 6 weeks, now we're giving them less than two?
> >> >> 12 days is how many days to August 1. Doesn't seem like nearly
> enough time
> >> >> to me. I'd say August 19 (one month from today, and a Monday so they
> have
> >> >> the weekend before to finish it).
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The Logo must be licensed to
> >> >>
> >> >> "under" instead of "to?"
> >> >>
> >> >>> Apache License 2.0.
> >> >>> If your Logo is accepted, the creator must sign an ICLA:
> >> >>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
> >> >>>
> >> >>> While we will accept PNG image formats for the contest,
> >> >>> we prefer vector based formats (SVG).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Pixelbased formats produced with Gimp or Photoshop
> >> >>> might be vectorized with free tools like Inkscape.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * http://inkscape.org
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Please note that a logo should not contain too much
> >> >>
> >> >> many
> >> >>
> >> >>> details.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If more than 10 Logos are submitted, the Apache Logging committers
> >> >>> will reduce the numbers to 10 nominees in a public vote.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> When 10 Logos are left, the Apache Logging committers will
> >> >>> select the final concept.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a little confusing. Even I'm not sure here whether this means
> >> >> only the committers will pick the top 10 / the winner or if there
> will be a
> >> >> vote that everyone can participate in at some point.
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The majority fo the Apache Logging PMC can veto a logo.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The logo is finally accepted, when all votes are successful
> >> >>> AND the ICLA of the logo contributor is on file.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The Log4j team
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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