OK cool thanks a lot.

Lets see if Ralph or Remko (or anybody else) has further comments,
otherwise I am fine with moving the word out on Sunday.
I already pinged Sally, she will give us a tweet :)

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, done editing for now.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Cool thanks.
>>
>> I included the changes discussed with Nick and added it to Jira:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
>>
>> If you can't edit it (you should) let me know
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > If you write up the text with the changes discussed, I'll proof read the
>> > whole thing. It seems we need the text in the JIRA first.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Nick Williams
>> > <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's much better, as in being clear. As for whether we should allow
>> >> community votes, I have mixed feelings, so I'm going to abstain from
>> >> commenting.
>> >>
>> >> Nick
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Nick thanks for the mispelling corrections.
>> >> >
>> >> > Date: ups you are right. I was living in June. Lets extend it further
>> >> > 1 month from the date we agreed to this
>> >> >
>> >> > What about this:
>> >> >
>> >> >> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Everybody is invited to vote. The votes of Apache Logging Committers
>> >> >> are binding.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If there are more than 10 Logos submitted there will be two rounds.
>> >> >> In the first round the 10 logos with the most +1 are entering round
>> >> >> two.
>> >> >> In the second round the logo with the most +1 will win the contest.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is that better?
>> >> >
>> >> > Not sure if we should allow community votes in this case or not.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers
>> >> > Christian
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nick Williams
>> >> > <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>> >> >> A few corrections/suggestions inline.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Hello,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> here is a draft based on my ideas and based on the feedback i read
>> >> >>> from Gary and others.
>> >> >>> Please feel free to correct / modify / discuss it.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I already created an Jira issue, because i think we all agreed to
>> >> >>> take
>> >> >>> Jira for submissions. The plan is to use the text on the website,
>> >> >>> blog
>> >> >>> and jira issue. We also might be able to get some help from Sally
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Please note, I changed the final date to 01.08. becuase the
>> >> >>> previous
>> >> >>> date is already history :-|
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Cheers
>> >> >>> Christian
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Log4j 2.0 is looking for a new logo
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Log4j 2 is very different to Log4j 1. Log4j 2 is more reliable
>> >> >>> and fast then its predecessor and even comparable frameworks.
>> >> >>> The team has grown after years of stagnation and there is
>> >> >>> a lot of activity on our lists. We are already seeing the
>> >> >>> first signs for a stable release on the horizon.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> After 12 years it is not only time to change the version
>> >> >>> number but also time to refresh the Log4j logo.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> With our new logo we want to show the java community
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Java," not "java."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> that Log4j is back.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> We would like to open participation to the community
>> >> >>> to create this new logo.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> HOW TO PARTICIPATE
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Attach your entries to the Jira:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Each person can submit more than one logo.
>> >> >>> Submissions will be accepted until August 01, 2013.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Originally we gave them 6 weeks, now we're giving them less than
>> >> >> two?
>> >> >> 12 days is how many days to August 1. Doesn't seem like nearly
>> >> >> enough time
>> >> >> to me. I'd say August 19 (one month from today, and a Monday so they
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> the weekend before to finish it).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The Logo must be licensed to
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "under" instead of "to?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Apache License 2.0.
>> >> >>> If your Logo is accepted, the creator must sign an ICLA:
>> >> >>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> While we will accept PNG image formats for the contest,
>> >> >>> we prefer vector based formats (SVG).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Pixelbased formats produced with Gimp or Photoshop
>> >> >>> might be vectorized with free tools like Inkscape.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> * http://inkscape.org
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Please note that a logo should not contain too much
>> >> >>
>> >> >> many
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> details.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If more than 10 Logos are submitted, the Apache Logging committers
>> >> >>> will reduce the numbers to 10 nominees in a public vote.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> When 10 Logos are left, the Apache Logging committers will
>> >> >>> select the final concept.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a little confusing. Even I'm not sure here whether this
>> >> >> means
>> >> >> only the committers will pick the top 10 / the winner or if there
>> >> >> will be a
>> >> >> vote that everyone can participate in at some point.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The majority fo the Apache Logging PMC can veto a logo.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The logo is finally accepted, when all votes are successful
>> >> >>> AND the ICLA of the logo contributor is on file.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The Log4j team
>> >> >>>
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