Easily done, assuming we have consensus.   I am hearing two options:
1) strip '-' characters from element names.
2) allow aliases for element names.

These are not mutually exclusive.  I see no reason not to go ahead with number 
2 and we can continue to discuss where else number 1 might be used.

Ralph

On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Remko Popma wrote:

> Ralph,
> Don't forget the error-ref attribute for AsyncAppender. 
> 
> Remko
> 
> On Saturday, August 17, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote:
> I'm not in favor of just allowing arbitrary '-' characters wherever users 
> want. But allowing aliases makes it possible to allow for variations.  I 
> already have this working.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this ship has fully sailed, but I'd prefer to see us
>> stick with he dash format due to folks being familiar with it from
>> log4j 1.
>> 
>> That's a thin argument IMO considering you'll have to read the version 2 
>> config docs to get off the ground anyway, even if you know your way around 
>> version 1. 
>> 
>> And this is also an opportunity to make our config code even fancier by 
>> normalizing '-' chars ;)
>> 
>> Gary
>>  
>> 
>> Gary
>>  
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 8/16/13, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ralph Goers
>> > <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm adding an aliases attribute to the Plugin annotation.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hold on to your horses ;)
>> >
>> > Another way to look at this is that our config parsing that is already
>> > case-insensitive could be augmented to strip out "-"s, no aliases needed.
>> >
>> > As someone pointed out here, some folks like-to-talk-like-this (see JPA).
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Maybe we just need another plugin for the 2nd name then. Subclass or
>> >> delegate?
>> >>
>> >> On Friday, August 16, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I had the same thought. People switching from log4j 1 or logback will
>> >>> probably make that mistake a lot. Plus this breaks virtually everyone
>> >>> currently using Log4j 2.  The problem is that I don't think there is
>> >>> currently a way for a plugin to have 2 names.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Would it be an idea to support both appender-ref and appenderRef
>> >>> attributes?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gary Gregory
>> >>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I never thought that Log4J 2 configuration files should be backward
>> >>> compatible with version 1, and even less so with a different product.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gary
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ralph Goers
>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Now that I see this it kind of scares me.  Log4j 1.x and Logback both
>> >>> use
>> >>> appender-ref. Anyone using Log4j 2 will now be broken.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:05 PM, ggreg...@apache.org wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Modified:
>> >>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/core/src/test/resources/log4j2-config.xml
>> >>> > URL:
>> >>>

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