So far yours is the only vote for that. Anyone else? Ralph
On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > I think we should do both. > > Gary > > On Aug 16, 2013, at 21:59, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> Easily done, assuming we have consensus. I am hearing two options: >> 1) strip '-' characters from element names. >> 2) allow aliases for element names. >> >> These are not mutually exclusive. I see no reason not to go ahead with >> number 2 and we can continue to discuss where else number 1 might be used. >> >> Ralph >> >> On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Remko Popma wrote: >> >>> Ralph, >>> Don't forget the error-ref attribute for AsyncAppender. >>> >>> Remko >>> >>> On Saturday, August 17, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> I'm not in favor of just allowing arbitrary '-' characters wherever users >>> want. But allowing aliases makes it possible to allow for variations. I >>> already have this working. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I'm not sure if this ship has fully sailed, but I'd prefer to see us >>>> stick with he dash format due to folks being familiar with it from >>>> log4j 1. >>>> >>>> That's a thin argument IMO considering you'll have to read the version 2 >>>> config docs to get off the ground anyway, even if you know your way around >>>> version 1. >>>> >>>> And this is also an opportunity to make our config code even fancier by >>>> normalizing '-' chars ;) >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary >>>> >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 8/16/13, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ralph Goers >>>> > <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I'm adding an aliases attribute to the Plugin annotation. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Hold on to your horses ;) >>>> > >>>> > Another way to look at this is that our config parsing that is already >>>> > case-insensitive could be augmented to strip out "-"s, no aliases needed. >>>> > >>>> > As someone pointed out here, some folks like-to-talk-like-this (see JPA). >>>> > >>>> > Gary >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Remko Popma wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Maybe we just need another plugin for the 2nd name then. Subclass or >>>> >> delegate? >>>> >> >>>> >> On Friday, August 16, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> I had the same thought. People switching from log4j 1 or logback will >>>> >>> probably make that mistake a lot. Plus this breaks virtually everyone >>>> >>> currently using Log4j 2. The problem is that I don't think there is >>>> >>> currently a way for a plugin to have 2 names. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Would it be an idea to support both appender-ref and appenderRef >>>> >>> attributes? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gary Gregory >>>> >>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I never thought that Log4J 2 configuration files should be backward >>>> >>> compatible with version 1, and even less so with a different product. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Gary >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ralph Goers >>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Now that I see this it kind of scares me. Log4j 1.x and Logback both >>>> >>> use >>>> >>> appender-ref. Anyone using Log4j 2 will now be broken. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:05 PM, ggreg...@apache.org wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > Modified: >>>> >>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/core/src/test/resources/log4j2-config.xml >>>> >>> > URL: >>>> >>> >>