So far yours is the only vote for that.  Anyone else?

Ralph

On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> I think we should do both. 
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 21:59, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
>> Easily done, assuming we have consensus.   I am hearing two options:
>> 1) strip '-' characters from element names.
>> 2) allow aliases for element names.
>> 
>> These are not mutually exclusive.  I see no reason not to go ahead with 
>> number 2 and we can continue to discuss where else number 1 might be used.
>> 
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Remko Popma wrote:
>> 
>>> Ralph,
>>> Don't forget the error-ref attribute for AsyncAppender. 
>>> 
>>> Remko
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, August 17, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>> I'm not in favor of just allowing arbitrary '-' characters wherever users 
>>> want. But allowing aliases makes it possible to allow for variations.  I 
>>> already have this working.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Scott Deboy <scott.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure if this ship has fully sailed, but I'd prefer to see us
>>>> stick with he dash format due to folks being familiar with it from
>>>> log4j 1.
>>>> 
>>>> That's a thin argument IMO considering you'll have to read the version 2 
>>>> config docs to get off the ground anyway, even if you know your way around 
>>>> version 1. 
>>>> 
>>>> And this is also an opportunity to make our config code even fancier by 
>>>> normalizing '-' chars ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Gary
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/16/13, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Ralph Goers
>>>> > <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I'm adding an aliases attribute to the Plugin annotation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hold on to your horses ;)
>>>> >
>>>> > Another way to look at this is that our config parsing that is already
>>>> > case-insensitive could be augmented to strip out "-"s, no aliases needed.
>>>> >
>>>> > As someone pointed out here, some folks like-to-talk-like-this (see JPA).
>>>> >
>>>> > Gary
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Maybe we just need another plugin for the 2nd name then. Subclass or
>>>> >> delegate?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Friday, August 16, 2013, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I had the same thought. People switching from log4j 1 or logback will
>>>> >>> probably make that mistake a lot. Plus this breaks virtually everyone
>>>> >>> currently using Log4j 2.  The problem is that I don't think there is
>>>> >>> currently a way for a plugin to have 2 names.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Would it be an idea to support both appender-ref and appenderRef
>>>> >>> attributes?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gary Gregory
>>>> >>> <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I never thought that Log4J 2 configuration files should be backward
>>>> >>> compatible with version 1, and even less so with a different product.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Gary
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Ralph Goers
>>>> >>> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Now that I see this it kind of scares me.  Log4j 1.x and Logback both
>>>> >>> use
>>>> >>> appender-ref. Anyone using Log4j 2 will now be broken.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:05 PM, ggreg...@apache.org wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > Modified:
>>>> >>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/core/src/test/resources/log4j2-config.xml
>>>> >>> > URL:
>>>> >>>
>> 

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