... I'm still learning proper ML etiquette...

Very nice slides, btw.

On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would love to go, but i have to deal with a view personal issues (which
>  are not meant to be discussed in public)
> That makes it impossible for me to travel.
>
> However I was presenting Apache Logging at ACEU 2012 and it was an amazing
> experience.
> I can only recommend it to everybody "new" at this project or not.
> The things you learn and the people you'll meet definitely make a
> difference.
> In example I met a few ASF fellow of whom I thought I didn't like them. I
> was so wrong!
> mails are useful for us, but in reality people are *so* different to mails.
>
> What I also enjoyed were the feedback after the talks(s).
>
> Here are my old slides:
> http://www.slideshare.net/christiangrobmeier/world-of-logging
>
> I also think Logging is an important topic and a focus on logging would
> surely help us
> to promote log4j in the US.
>
>
>
> On 28 Jan 2014, at 18:59, Remko Popma wrote:
>
>  I'm interested but not sure if I can go (we are expecting our second child
>> early May...)
>> -Remko
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nick Williams <
>> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Guys, let's show up for Apache Logging! They're hurting for CFP's right
>>> now. Rich Bowen at ApacheCon assures me that if money is an issue getting
>>> committers to come and lead talks, the Travel Assistance Committee will
>>> do
>>> everything it can to help you get there. Email them at t...@apache.org.
>>>
>>> I'm definitely going and I'll submit a CFP as well. I'm open to
>>> suggestions. Let's try to get 3-5 good Apache Logging talks in from
>>> different people! If we can get two PMC members to come, we can even
>>> have a
>>> summit, which would be great exposure! We need to coordinate so that
>>> we're
>>> covering different topics and not stepping on each other.
>>>
>>> I NEED A ROOMMATE AND YOU DO, TOO! Hotel is the biggest expense for
>>> this--more than flights and committer registration combined. I'm looking
>>> for someone who wants to go and is willing to share a hotel room and
>>> split
>>> the cost. If we can get 4 Logging guys there, we can use just 2 hotel
>>> rooms
>>> and save a bunch of money. I plan on flying in Sunday night and checking
>>> out of the hotel Friday morning--that's five nights. If someone can only
>>> share the hotel for 3 nights, we can split the price accordingly.
>>>
>>> Inline below I have included the answers I got to some questions I asked
>>> Rich.
>>>
>>> I hope some of you will come to ApacheCon with me! It'll be a great
>>> opportunity to publicize Log4j 2.0 GA!
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Nick Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>  - What exactly is a project summit?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Rich: Some projects are taking the opportunity to have a "summit" of one
>>> kind or another, to do sprints on features, or to discuss the direction
>>> of
>>> the project, or to do bug triage, or whatever. A project summit is
>>> whatever
>>> you want to make it, if two or more members of the PMC are together in a
>>> room to make it happen.
>>>
>>>  - What exactly is a tutorial and how is it different from a talk on the
>>>>
>>> normal days?
>>>
>>> Rich: A talk is 50 minutes. A tutorial is 3 hours. That's the main
>>> difference. A tutorial is usually more indepth, with hands-on elements -
>>> more of a training class than an overview.
>>>
>>>  I noticed the fee is normally $799 (until Friday, then $1099), but it's
>>>>
>>> $275 for "committers." That means that anyone who's a committer on any
>>> Apache project whatsoever /only/ pays $275 to attend the entire
>>> conference,
>>> right?
>>>
>>> Rich: That's correct.
>>>
>>>
>>>> The registration page says there is an additional fee for tutorials on
>>>>
>>> April 10th: "$399 for 1/2 day tutorials ($299 for students) and $749 for
>>> full
>>> day tutorials (students and attendees)." What it doesn't say is:
>>>
>>>> 1) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 10th for
>>>>
>>> /committers/?
>>>
>>> Rich: Yes, tutorials have a fee for everyone.
>>>
>>>  2) Is there an additional fee for tutorials on April 11th for anyone (it
>>>>
>>> only mentions April 10th, but the schedule shows tutorials on April 11th
>>> as
>>> well)?
>>>
>>> Rich: We'll get that fixed.
>>>
>>>  3) Is there an additional fee for project summits on April 10th or 11th?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Rich: Project summits are usually open to anyone interested in the
>>> project, and no extra fee is charged.
>>>
>>>  It says they will have 5-9 tracks going on this year. I assume that
>>>>
>>> means 5-9 conference rooms (based on the # of CFPs submitted), which
>>> means
>>> 5-9 simultaneous talks can occur.
>>>
>>> Rich: That is correct.
>>>
>>>  It sounds like there is potentially time to have multiple talks on
>>>>
>>> Apache Logging. Though I am new-ish, I'd love to present on behalf of
>>> Apache Logging. Do we want to have multiple talks?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 9:29 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I would like to attend but I'm not sure I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to remind you ApacheCon is happening in April 2014.
>>>>>> If you would like to submit your talk, now is the chance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it would be great to have somebody presenting our Logging
>>>>>>
>>>>> frameworks.
>>>
>>>> I will not be there unfortunately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Christian
>>>>>>
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