Was there any support in creating any of these new modules?
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Bruce Brouwer <bruce.brou...@gmail.com>wrote: > I'll put together a list of things that I think could be pulled out of > log4j-core because they are integrations with other tools. Go ahead and > throw darts, that's what my list is for. > > * log4j-jms > * log4j-mail > * log4j-web > * log4j-jpa > * log4j-mongodb > * log4j-couchdb > > Some more questionable ones to pull out > * log4j-json > * log4j-yaml > > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree with all that as well. Part of the "no more modules" problem >>> comes from all the unnecessary OSGi modules. I'll be deleting those soon as >>> I'm porting over the OSGi metadata to the appropriate modules so that extra >>> parallel modules are unneeded. >>> >> >> That will be good :) >> >> Gary >> >> >>> >>> >>> On 17 April 2014 23:48, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with you completely. In fact, the items you have specifically >>>> identified are where I would start. Are there more? >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:21 PM, Bruce Brouwer <bruce.brou...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This discussion about having modules or not having modules keeps coming >>>> up and I see different opinions here on the log4j team. Generally, the >>>> argument of "please, no more modules" has won. I wanted to present my >>>> perspective to see if I can sway anyone's opinion. >>>> >>>> There are plenty of reasons why projects decide to make more modules. >>>> Projects like Spring make plenty of modules. As some have noted, this can >>>> make it difficult to find things sometimes, and I agree. Although there are >>>> ways around this with search.maven.org, it is still a bit of a pain. >>>> Some of this can be solved with documentation, some of it is probably not >>>> necessary for log4j. >>>> >>>> The Spring guys like to break out different modules because of the >>>> different features (e.g. batch, security, ...). Log4j is probably not big >>>> enough to warrant breaking it up across feature lines. However, another >>>> very valid reason to break out modules is for integrations. This is where I >>>> think log4j should be allowing more modules to be created: log4j-camel, >>>> log4j-ng-flume, log4j-jms, log4j-web, log4j-mongodb, ... >>>> >>>> I think that this could help, rather than hinder, some of the >>>> discoverability related to log4j. I do quite frequently find myself seeing >>>> what is available in Maven central. If I found myself browsing around >>>> log4j, it could definitely spark some extra interest: "Oh, they have >>>> something specific to JMS?, I'll have to look into that." I might discover >>>> aspects of log4j that I had not previously considered. Right now, most of >>>> those are buried inside of the code and the pom dependencies where I'm not >>>> as likely to investigate further. But having a list of modules named by >>>> their integration I may get more people excited to use log4j 2. It's about >>>> advertising. >>>> >>>> Now, maybe my argument doesn't work in my favor regarding >>>> log4j-streams, but it might if you consider Java's streams as an >>>> integration. In a way it is. >>>> >>>> In any case, I support the modularization of log4j along integration >>>> boundaries, which I think would help with osgi as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Done. Deleted the two modules after branching to branches/experimental. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17 April 2014 12:33, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Ralph. I'll move the experimental code to a feature branch. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 12:27, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want to retroactively create a branch, and you're doing >>>>>>> Eclipse, simply show the project's SVN history; then select create a >>>>>>> branch >>>>>>> at the revision you want to split from. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Ralph Goers < >>>>>>> ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Google “svn move”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know how to create one, but not retroactively. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 April 2014 10:11, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matt, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Creating a branch in subversion is trivial. A quick google would >>>>>>>>> give you the answer to that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Everyone - Do we already have a sandbox? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not very good at subversion. I just put it in the trunk. If >>>>>>>>> someone could move it to a branch, that would be great. Same goes for >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> experimental log4j-camel module I started yesterday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 April 2014 06:49, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Now I am confused. I thought we decided to keep this in a >>>>>>>>>> branch, I could >>>>>>>>>> be wrong since there have been many back and forths. As of now, >>>>>>>>>> this means >>>>>>>>>> it will be released in 2.0. If so, why is it not in the core or >>>>>>>>>> api module? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:45 PM, <mattsic...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> > Author: mattsicker >>>>>>>>>> > Date: Tue Apr 15 03:44:59 2014 >>>>>>>>>> > New Revision: 1587396 >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1587396 >>>>>>>>>> > Log: >>>>>>>>>> > Add log4j-streams module. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > - See LOG4J2-547 >>>>>>>>>> > - Thanks to Bruce Brouwer for the patch! >>>>>>>>>> > - Added finals everywhere to said patch. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > Added: >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/ (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/pom.xml (with >>>>>>>>>> props) >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/ >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/ >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/ >>>>>>>>>> > logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/ByteStreamLogger.java >>>>>>>>>> > (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/CharStreamLogger.java >>>>>>>>>> > (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/LoggerBufferedInputStream.java >>>>>>>>>> > (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/LoggerBufferedReader.java >>>>>>>>>> > (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> logging/log4j/log4j2/trunk/log4j-streams/src/main/java/org/apache/logging/log4j/streams/LoggerInputStream.java >>>>>>>>>> > (with props) >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Message truncated ----- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second >>>>>>>>>> Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition<http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bruce Brouwer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second >> Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> >> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >> > > > > -- > > Bruce Brouwer > -- Bruce Brouwer
