Gary, dependencies on things used only during the build, like autoconf, are ok. 
If the dependency is not part of the runtime there should be now problem. I am 
pretty sure there is a Jira or an FAQ on this.

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> On May 25, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Over in Commons VFS we are not adding a pom dep to a jar because it's license 
> is not ASF compatible, which is ASF policy from what I understand and how it 
> has been explained on the ML. Ii sounds like the same problem here.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ralph Goers
> Date:05/25/2014 02:26 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: Re: JMH for log4j microbenchmarks
> 
> This is a very good idea.  You really don't have a lot to worry about. ASF 
> projects can use GPL tools to build or do things like you are suggesting. 
> However, we can't ship things that are under the GPL and should not commit 
> them to svn. From what you are describing I don't think we would be doing 
> that. 
> 
> The log4j-dist module controls what is included in the release. As I recall 
> it is already excluding some things so this be easy to do. However, the 
> release zips the whole source tree, so as long as there is nothing GPL there 
> we are good.
> 
> Fwiw, my surgery is done. I am at home and feeling ok, under the 
> circumstances.  I can only see from one eye right now so please excuse 
> mistakes.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 24, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been using JMH (http://openjdk.java.net/projects/code-tools/jmh/ ) for 
>> performance tests recently and I'm very impressed. JMH is developed by the 
>> Oracle java performance team and used internally by Oracle to performance 
>> tune the JVM and java core libraries.
>> 
>> I would like to use JMH to start building a suite of performance tests for 
>> log4j2. I would like everyone's thoughts. First, do you like this idea at 
>> all? 
>> 
>> Also, there is one legal and one technical aspect that I would like 
>> everyone's feedback on.
>> 
>> A potential legal problem is that JMH is made available under GNU GPL v2 
>> with the Classpath Exception, and our Apache License v2 is not compatible 
>> with GPL v2 (see http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html#GPL ).
>> 
>> To solve this, I want to avoid distributing JMH or our executable 
>> microbenchmarks  (which would have the JMH classes) with our log4j 
>> artifacts. I just want our team (and whoever checks out the log4j source) to 
>> be able to use JMH to genyerate and run benchmarks when they want to.
>> 
>> I'm not a lawyer though. Does anyone have experience with this kind of 
>> question?
>> 
>> The technical aspect:
>> I propose adding a log4j-perf module. This is where our performance test 
>> code would live. JMH microbenchmarks are very simple java classes with 
>> org.openjdk.jmh annotations. During the build, JMH generates code and that 
>> generated code, together with all dependencies are zipped up in a large 
>> uber-jar with the maven Shade plugin. You can then use java -jar 
>> microbenchmarks.jar to run performance tests.
>> 
>> To ensure that the log4j-perf artifacts are not included in the log4j2 
>> distribution, we could simply leave out the "<module>log4j-perf</module>" 
>> line from log4j2/pom.xml. The drawback is that you'd need to manually add 
>> that line and build again if you want to execute microbenchmarks to test 
>> something that only exists in your workspace. Is there a better way, to 
>> somehow include the log4j-perf module in the build, but exclude its 
>> artifacts from the log4j2 distribution?
>> 
>> 

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