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> On May 26, 2014, at 5:31 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Over in Commons VFS we are not adding a pom dep to a jar because it's 
>> license is not ASF compatible, which is ASF policy from what I understand 
>> and how it has been explained on the ML. Ii sounds like the same problem 
>> here.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Ralph Goers
>> Date:05/25/2014 02:26 (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Log4J Developers List
>> Subject: Re: JMH for log4j microbenchmarks
>> 
>> This is a very good idea.  You really don't have a lot to worry about. ASF 
>> projects can use GPL tools to build or do things like you are suggesting. 
>> However, we can't ship things that are under the GPL and should not commit 
>> them to svn. From what you are describing I don't think we would be doing 
>> that.
> 
> From https://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
> 
> "We avoid GPLv3 software because merely linking to it is considered by the 
> GPLv3 authors to create a derivative work. We want to honor their license. 
> Unless GPLv3 licensors relax this interpretation of their own license 
> regarding linking, our licensing philosophies are fundamentally incompatible. 
> This is an identical issue for both GPLv2 and GPLv3."
> 
> So if we link to any GPLv2 or GPLv3 in our sources and we ship these sources, 
> we are creating a derivative work, which we are not allowed to do because, as 
> the ASF, "We want to honor their license".
> 
> Am I reading this wrong?
> 
> Thank you,

Yes,

See LEGAL-153 where the GPL is not acceptable and then LEGAL-23 and LEGAL-19 
where it is. LEGAL-173 is not closed, but it's use of GPL' d software seems 
similar and has an opinion that it is OK. Finally, see 
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited. The bottom line is 
whether it is just a tool or if we have actual code that links to it. My 
understanding of it is that there will be no code in svn that references any 
GPL library.

Ralph

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